I prefer to be represented by an attorney that understands disparity of force.
Shoot someone in a store while they are grabbing candy bars and soft drinks are a tough call too. Where you in fear for your life while all this is happening is going to be the question.
Move to a defensive position in a corner or even behind the counter and put something in between you and them and when that is breeched then you have a real threat
I believe the term is now "wilding" and stems from the Central Park Jogger Case.
Urban Dictionary: wilding
Central Park Jogger case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If confronted with this type of behaviour I can't imagine any other reaction except attempting to protect myself with any means possible. I doubt if I would prevail but self preservation seems human nature.
So many variables, more than in a normal self-defense sittuation. Yes, try to extricate yourself from the sittuation, give verbal warnings, but when it becomes clear they are intent on harming you (whatever that looks like), then you are really out of options. Hopefully they all see a gun and decide to run. If not, hopefully the rest learn from the example of the closest one.
The problem will then come in that there are multiple witnesses (the mob) who will say they were not threatening you and you just pulled out a gun and started shooting their little group get together. I guess I would rather deal with that, than not have to deal with anything anymore, but man I hope there are survellance cameras around if this ever happens to me.
The key is to understand how disparity of force applies to "force in numbers" (large group or mob) and to act accordingly.
So, if you're surrounded by six angry 5th graders, you're going to shoot them if they throw the first punch or even a rock or two? Ahh hmm. Okay.
I hope you've got a pretty good attorney. I think at some point you're going to have to look at the totality of the circumstances.
Well, I'd try to get out if at all possible. The best way to win that fight is to not fight it. If we're talking half a dozen teens, I can't imagine having too much trouble getting away. I'm 24 and in very good shape. If my wife was with me it would change things. She's in good shape too, but probably not as fast as a teenage boy in good shape. Assuming my wife is with me in that situation, which is likely, I'd draw and start yelling, then she'd draw and do the same. Again try to escape. If escape becomes impossible, her 7+1 and spare 7 of 9mm and my 10+1 and spare 10 of .40 come into play. More than enough lead for half a dozen assailants at that range in my opinion.
Bark'n posted while I was typing. Assuming that age assailants, I'd probably laugh unless they pulled out some serious weaponry. Call the cops and fend them off with soft attacks. Once they hit the teenage-ish years, they're adults to me.
weither im armed properly or not (Getting out of work at a school district) if there intent on harming me, im harming as many of them as possible. Stainless steel zebra pen does wonders if applied properly.
That isn't the worst case in my book. The one I worry about is the "knockout game." Someone with no warning steps up and cold cocks you, and then a bunch set upon you.
If my head is still working, there will be blood before they get my gun.
If mob of people flashed me, I'd do one of three things:
2) Take a picture
3) Flash them back
I'm thinking #3 would probably send them all on their way expeditiously.
There are already plenty of threads about this.
My first reaction to this scenario is that I wouldn't be there in the first place! SA is you friend! I can't conceive of being anyplace where a large number of teenagers or young adults are going to "suddenly" appear out of nowhere and surround me without my being aware of the "gathering" in advance! Star Trek isn't real and people don't just transport from point A to point B and "magically appear!
HOWEVER, if by some chance my SA suddenly became so out of tune that a mob "magically" appeared around me with no advance warning, I would first attemp to get out of Dodge. If that was impossible and I felt my life was being threatened, I would try to turn the leader's head into and exploded bloody mess and so on down the line until the "mob" either lost all interest in their "mob" activity or I ran out of ammo and succumbed to the zombie. I'm 70 and I don't run very well or fight very well anymore, and I hope to live out the rest of my life in a peaceful manner. But if my life is threatened, I don't care if you are 12 or 120, male, female, or indeterminate. Just my .02.:yup: