This is a discussion on mythbuster 6/10 dont bring a knife to a gun fight within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tcox4freedom (Depending solely on a concealed handgun to get you out of a situation where you SA has failed could be a ...
If the threat materializes at in-your-face distances, you may have to go hands-on to create enough room to even draw your handgun or knife.
S/A does fail. You simply cannot go through life without ever letting someone who you don't know get within 21 feet of you, and no one can stay switched on 24/7/365.
I'll be curious to hear how this one goes. My first experience/demo of the drill, they didn't even tell us the name, just the concept. He then took a bet that he could tag someone before being 'shot', measured off the distance, and in the middle of the lecture lunged at the target. He claims, for the first time, he lost the bet as the poor kid got so scared that he backpedaled, tripped under the 'knife', and drew and fired from the ground. The instructor was still able to reach him before he could draw/fire, but unfortunately, the bet specified tagging with the knife.
But overall, he had NO problem covering the distance in that short amount of time.
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Should be interesting. I sometimes have a problem with their methods. They assume that if it doesn't work the way they have it set up, it won't work, period. I understand that they have limitations with the format of the show, cost etc., but a lot of times I am just sitting there thinking: "why aren't they trying it this way?"
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The American flag does not fly because the wind moves past it-The American flag flies from the last breath of each military member who has died protecting it, American soldiers don't fight because they hate what's in front of them...they fight because they love what's behind them."
In line at the store?
Passing on the sidewalk?
Just a couple of examples.
Not everyone who is up to no good will look like a vagrant, bum or outlaw biker.
This has actually never happened to me.How many times have we all been out pumping gas and a vagrant approaches begging for money or food or money for a bus ticket?
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-The Mist (2007)"My God David, We're a Civilized society."
"Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
For the most part I agree with those that are saying the bad guy won't have his knife raised to attack 20+ feet away... He's gonna wait until he's close in.
That said, there may be a random nut that starts brandishing his weapon at distance... but he's probably not interested in money or robbing you, he wants to harm you for no reason at all...
In my limited (third hand) experience: When my co worker was robbed at knife "point" the knife was held in a closed fist at belly level, pointed down (as if prepared for an overhead stabbing attack). Like this, only in front of the BG's belly:
Not the way I would hold a knife if I were going to rob someone.
And, it was within about 3 feet.
Now, one on one, I would have feigned compliance. My EDC is just about above where my wallet would be... so pretending compliance, "reaching for the wallet" would give me a chance to draw.
While moving at least backwards and maybe outside his weapon (left if he's a righty), left hand up (in a one handed "fence") apparent "startle response." I have a good chance of bringing to bear on the target.
This is just one example.
All of my possible responses are determined by my perceived "demeanor" of the BG. And require decisions that take place in the moment. I may even "comply," tossing a money clip with a few bills in it, and turning to run... giving me distance and time to prepare a more aggressive defense.
All of these require practice with another person... the coworker (from above, who ended up beaten, stabbed twice, and left for dead by 4 BGs) and I have gone through several scenarios and both of us feel better able to handle a similar situation should it arise.
It could be worse!
I saw a video on you tube where a BG took out two cops with a knife before they shot him. He lost,but he did some damage. Stiil rather have a gun though.