This is a discussion on Waffle House Encounter within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by archer51 I'd of gone back to my truck, grabbed my 12 gauge pump shotgun and gone back in. Screamed at them to ...
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Leaving is important as mentioned. However, right before I left, I'd discreetly video the "mad house", call Waffle House Inc, and share the video with them. Since the manager is allowing this to go on, I doubt if calling him will help much help, but it probably should be done "for the record".
The deep concern is the patrons behavior and how/why it got like that.
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I agree to normally leave. Way too much can go wrong by confronting the morons. A couple of times at sporting events I asked folks to watch their language (My son was 8-10 at the time). Both times it was 2 guys and 2 girls and they were just getting excited. First time was at a Washington Capitols game. I asked the kid next to me if they could just watch the language and he felt bad about it. We actually got along the rest of the game.
Second time was at Boston Celtics games. I swear, if one were to profile you would have thought the 20 somethings (2 guys and 2 girls again) in front of us were gang bangers. Hispanic, tattoos, bling, just everything you could imagine in a rapper gone bad movie LOL. Anyway, same thing. They were just getting excited and I had a feeling they were good kids. They had the same reaction when I talked to them. They were very polite. In fact, you know the t-shirt cannons they use at games? They caught a t-shirt and gave it to my son. So not all 20 somethings are useless.
I must admit that the cost of good seats at sporting event definitly was a factor. I am not walking away from seats 8 rows up in the corner of a hockey game. Plus, you have event security and very little chance of them waiting for you outside.
Way back before getting married and having kids, I was having dinner with some coworkers at a local "sports bar" type restaurant, and some of the people I was with were getting pretty loud and were cussing. When I suggested they keep it down a bit because of the families there too, one person piped up and said "well what do they expect at a place like this?!?". As much as that answer bugged me, that logic has driven many of my choices ever since.
It's not my job to maintain a proper business atmosphere in the Waffle House. I would have said nothing to the boorish crowd making the noise. The place is poorly managed and it isn't my problem. I would however let management know why I was making my exit.What upset me was that the mgr. wouldn't say anything to them. He could have went to them, not made a scene and told them to settle down but didn't. My question is, would you have said anything to them ?
There are a few eateries that I avoid specifically because of the atmosphere or the noise inside. I would add the Waffle House to that list. As for confronting an obnoxious crowd....I don't need trouble that I can easily avoid, especially while I'm armed.
Give the manager the opportunity to quiet down the crowd or leave immediately...I'd call 911 and imform them why I left w/o finishing or paying for my meal...was afraid the crowd was getting out of hand...my family's safety comes first.
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I also would have left after telling the manager why. Confronting a group of drunks is putting yourself in a bad situation. I'm sure some of our women would have said or wanted us to say something to them if they were with us. They just don't understand how the game changes when you're armed.
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Good responses, just a shame mgmt. was so weak.
I'm not a Waffle House fan (I prefer my waffles with syrup but no nicotene), but I remember going through Biloxi after Katrina and the one thing that stuck out was that all the Waffle Houses were still standing, even in neighborhoods where everything else was flattened. I hypothesize that the grease seeps into the bricks and congeals into a substance that's not only waterproof, but also able to withstand sustained Hurricane-force winds.
I havenít eaten in one of them in years and all because of this song... there is some cursing (2or 3 words) in it so if this offends you do not open it