Why did you wind down the window?
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Little story, hope it's not too boring. There were no shots fired, but leather was cleared.
Was soberly going for a burger at 2am earlier this week...I'm a musician, I work odd hours. The fast food joint drive-through is one lane with no exits and my G26 was riding in the center console. So....this pretty nice F250 truck pulls up in the church parking lot adjoining the Whataburger drive-through area. (Whataburger is a TX fast food place that makes a pretty awesome sandwich...fyi) The driver, a 20-something white male gets out, leaves it running, and I can see there is a person in the passenger seat.
I'm stuck in a line of cars, I watch him egress and walk toward my car, and come around to my window. During this time, I calmly pull out the glock and hold it beside my right leg so it remains concealed. I roll the window down.
The dude starts begging for gas money to get back to Dallas! His big ass truck is still running the whole time. lol. I declined and laughed to myself that this guy's scam is about as stupid as it gets. He asked all the other cars, received nothing, and then drove off. Sorry friends, I don't even give money to homeless people, let alone (deleted expletive) driving better vehicles than myself.
I mentioned it to the drive thru woman who said it happens all the time, but the destination they claim they are headed to changes every few nights.
So my little lesson was, had I left the piece at home, I would have been kicking myself for allowing myself to be put in that situation. Carry always friends, remain vigilant, maintain situational awareness, be safe.
Thanks for reading
Why did you wind down the window?
My name is Frogman46 and I'm tougher than you.
There is one thing I thought of when I read your post: how far did you roll down your window? Here's my thought process... random dude walks up to your car while being trapped between the car in front and behind - so nowhere to go, really. If you don't/didn't roll down your window, random dude might get annoyed or aggravated and cause a bigger scene, potentially escalating the situation. On the other hand, if you roll down your window all the way, even with your pistol at your side and at the ready, he most likely will have the upper hand because he is not confined by the interior of the car (steering wheel, limited turning capabilities, etc). If you roll the window half-way down or anywhere in between completely up or down, if bullets start flying the shrapnel from the glass could pose a greater threat (though bullets flying would be my main concern). Sorry for rambling... I guess something I can suggest is leaving enough space between yourself and the vehicle in front of you to be able to quickly egress if the proverbial stuff hits the fan. This can also be done at stop lights, too. Just a thought. I'm glad nothing more came from it and you're safe and sound.
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Nothing new in Tx I been approached pumping gas,walking out of Walmart,people begging on every highway off ramp,I carry always,but in 6 years only time I've unholstered and held my 1911 under my leg was when the guy driving decided to stop at a convenience store in the GHETTO and ask for directions,I felt like chum in a shark tank and my vision got blurry I was checking my 360 so often.
When he came back I asked one ? ARE U OUTTA UR .......MIND
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I would have smacked him with the beer bottle I usually have at 2am
All of the Whataburgers in this area have 2 to 3 uniformed (but off duty) officers pulling security overnight. It's a pretty sweet deal for the deputy constables usually.
I usually pull as close to the drive-thru wall as I can get without scraping my mirror, so unless he wants to squeeze into the 10" space next to my car, he'll have to talk the the guy in front or back of me.
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I have engaged street people before they get too close.
A simple no thanks before they can say anything works fine. Specialy while on foot.
Cattle prods tend to discourage beggars!
Seriously though, if you saw him walking your way, you had time to roll up your window. Sitting there with your window up and shaking your head no should be all the discouragement he needed.
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Id'a lit into 'im. In my best Houston drawl...
What the billy hell you mean "you need some gas money?"
You drivin' that there 4X4 veee-hicle pickem up truck, leave it runnin'...
Why I can hear it suckin' gas clear over here...
And you got the sand to tryan tell me you need gas money....
What the hell, boah.... you thinkin' I fell off the turnip truck last night, er what?
Now git yerself back to that truck and skeedaddle on outa here...
and don't mess with none of the other folks in this here line...
Or I will get outta my little rice grinder and kick your redneck-
but allaway to the po leece station... are we clear, son?
Go away now, you bother me, boy!
And I probably would have, too, what with the G26 ridin my thigh... Ida liked to see his response to that...
It could be worse!
Everyone came out alive and unharmed so that is good, however, I don't know about rolling down the window to talk to him. A friend of my famliy was killed at a bank drive-thru at 8:45 in the morning in 2009. The guy walked right up to her min-van, asked her something and then starting blasting away before she could react. He pulled her out of the van and took off. This was a busy drive-thru and many people witnessed the shooting.
Typically most folks scrunch up their vehicles too close in the drive thru lane. But it's always best to leave enough room so you can break the line and leave. Granted it would be hard for me to leave and abandon a Whataburger and strawberry shake order.
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