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Ask NYC Police Dept ... it seems the shooter @ the Empire State bldg only shot 1 (one ) person, and the other wounded are a result of the NYC police dept. They seem to think that was acceptable. They released a video of when they took him down (it's out there) , and he is never seen shooting at the NYC police. He pointed his gun in their direction, but didn't shoot.
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I train with a firearms instructor for the force here in arkansas and he does a lot of training with those guys pretty often. Seems like law enforcement around here try to stay on top of there game for the most part. As far as going to the range goes, I try to run at least 2-300 rounds. If not I feel like its a wasted trip!
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Ours only have to score between 70-80% to pass.
I know 'qualification' is different than 'training', but how often do departments really 'train' with their guns?
This is from a friend who is a SWAT medic for a fair-sized city:I don't know about the NYPD, but other police departments with which I am familiar require only 70% scores on a very easy, semi-annual pistol qualification. No stress, no movement while shooting, and simply paper targets on a square range. Even with that, many cops have difficulty hitting that 70% mark.
We also have to remember that most cops (like most CCW's) will not train on their own dime. It will have to be provided by a (probably) already budget strained department.
Not to me it is not, If I am not 100 percent sure , then i will not shoot, or that is what i would like to think, as i have never, and pray i never am, put in that situation. I am responsible for every shot I take, period.
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Most people when faced with a SHTF situation will not even know what the back ground is or was. They will be threat focused so much back ground is forgotten. It will be and is so much different than shooting on the range.
It's gotta be who you are, not a hobby. reinman45
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I am in sales, I know each day I will present my products. LEO's have to face the fact that on any given day they may or may not come home and will deal with violent people.
I shoot roughly 400 rounds a month. And I am a darn good shot if I say so myself, but this in no way makes me ready "for the street". Bravery and guts are not learned on the range, they are the deep down traits these brave men and women have that makes them stand up and fight for those who can't.
They may shoot a box of ammo every couple of years or so. Maybe.
The % of people who will pay out of pocket for professional training is pretty low judging from the responses on this very site.
What percentage of OC and CCer's do you think realistically train
68 percent said that 10 percent of CC'ers train realistically for SD.