This is a discussion on Scenario: You come home from work & ........ within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 40calcarry Try talking. The very moment he starts to talk, pop him. The human brain isnt built to multitask in a high ...
It could be worse!
I didn't make up the scenario. My answer was in response to the scenario.After knocking, or calling out loud to see if everything is alright, there is still no sound except for a low whimper. You force the door & find your wife & child(dren) held hostage in the room by a home invader. He has your youngest child at gun point specifically pointing at there head.
So the guy's just sitting there with my wife and child(ren) in a back bedroom waiting for me to come in with my Glock? I think I'd ask him if he has any more of the stuff he's smoking.
Youd think that with the number of times other people posted that theyd do the same as me i wouldnt be catching so much flak...in those few seconds am i supposed to think of all that? All im thinking about is my kids not getting shot, sorry if my opinion differs from yours. How about this...ill protect my family my way and you protect yours in your own fashion.
No he's not just waiting there. When I created the scenario for the poll, I envisioned that the home invasion happens literally seconds or minutes before you arrive home. To me, if the BG was alerted, he would hole up in a room with your family hoping that you were just a visitor but using them as insurance in case you weren't. I don't think the scenario is far fetched at all & in fact think it is likely given the circumstances given.
Before you pull the trigger, you have to consider your ability, Can you hit a 6" diameter moving target?? If you graze him all it will do is piss him off and chances are your child will be killed.
NOW, that being said, I would take the shot and 9 more.
I wouldn't just shoot once; it would be multiple shots while moving closer to make sure I stop him.
Ok I have to ask this. How does the above statement end this scenario without ending the life of your child?
Great you fire 10 times while advancing on the bad guy hitting this "6 inch moving target" in the cheek, mouth, eye, ear, forehead and so on. He meanwhile due to either fear, involuntary response or a death roll pulls the trigger once, just once and ends your childs life. Now what? Ooops honey sorry, but the bad guy is dead.
Do you think this guy is gonna sit still while you are advancing and firing? Chances are he will roll away from the threat pulling the child in front of him or on top of him. What now? I realize this is a scenario and there are several endings but come on guys. Can you sit there and honestly say you could do this, cold, with only the training you have had up to this point?
"A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013
I've been involved in two HIR's. One was done by only one individual. It started out as a burglary during daylight hours and turned into an attempted HIR after the BG realized someone was home. There was a brief physical altercation. But, I was able to get away & retrieve my SG.
The other was four individuals in the wee hours of the morning. Two of them had firearms. If I had been alone or if my stepfather & I had not had access to weapons this one would have ended badly for us. But, we were able to get our weapons into play and ultimately that scared the BGs off. (Unfortunately, they were never caught; even though we thought one of them had been hit.)
My youngest kid is a 3 year old boy that weighs 50 pounds and trying to hold him still for any reason is like trying to keep hold of a greased pig. He would have his hands full before I showed up. I can't even keep my finger pointed at that little turkey. Each scenario is unique, hard to predict.
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
Guns are like sex and air...its no big deal until YOU can't get any.
Since you've constantly questioned everybody else, knocked every response and told us we're all unable to do it: enlighten us. Tell us the answer o accomplished one.
I don't think tacman is saying he's the only one proficient enough to handle this shot, or non-shot...
I think he's trying to say what I'm saying. Until the muzzle is off my child's head, it's a mexican standoff.
I will do whatever I can to make that happen, and no matter what, I am not standing down until he does. His only option for leaving alive is to put down his weapon.
Now, lets make this scenario real.
No changes in the sequence of events... Just the addition of Mike's laser... and adrenaline...
You see something amiss as you arrive home, you decide to clear the house yourself, adrenaline starts to flow... but no real "dump" yet.
As you proceed through the house, time s l o w s w-a-y d--o--w--n (that's what happens to me in adrenaline dump, ymmv.) As you reach the last door which is closed, and you knock on it... If Sam Peckinpah (sp?) hasn't taken over your brain yet, he probably will when you hear the whimper from within.
You force the door. If you kick it in you will see the splintering, cracking, breaking pieces fly through the air. If the lights are off or down, you will see clearly.. If they are on, or you have a flashlight, everything will appear super-bright.
You now see your child in wide eyed horror... And the gun to his/her head... And the finger on the trigger...and the tension in that finger... And you will see any changes in that tension... As you slowly bring your laser sight to just below the perp's closest eye... ... You advance, keeping your sight on his cheek bone... And you see the slightest change in the tension on his trigger... It's an increase... In fact, if it's a firearm with a visible hammer (D A), you see the hammer move a bit, away from the firing pin... The muzzle is still pointed at your child's head... Your wife is saying something, but it sounds like a charlie brown adult...wah wah wah wah wah....
What's your move now, cowboys?
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