He's dead, and maybe the a--hole with the bags on his hands will learn a needed lesson. I would bet the dead guy has a prior record.
The headlines on these stories always make me angry: "Road rage ends with fatal shooting outside gas station". From the headline, your first thought is that some maniac followed an innocent person to a gas station and shot them dead. Why not a headline: "Alleged attacker shot by woman fearing for her life"?
In Ohio, thank heavens, we have no duty to retreat. You break in my car window I will shoot to keep you from hurting me. You are not breaking in my window to talk to me you are going to hurt or maybe kill me. What good would it do to leave? He could just follow her and bash up her car and kill her, he sure was mad enough. She went to a populated area which was safer than trying to drive with this man around her. Maybe she had to because of the accident. Doesn't matter, she should have been safe.
It shouldn't matter if she could have left or not but you know people if she could have she should have. You know, I wasn't there when this happened. I wasn't terrified like this lady was. Even if the law does say she had the duty to retreat I don't care. She protected herself and that is all that should matter. I just hope that if the law where she lives says she has a duty to retreat the videos show she couldn't have done so.
Here's the deal suntzu, maybe the thought of just driving away did not occur to her. When faced with a deadly threat, a lot of people react to a deadly threat with immediate justifiable deadly force.
The law does not require you to mentally go down a list of possible other options in the face of a deadly threat. You do not even have to choose the best course of action. If you are faced with a deadly threat and lethal force is justified, you are not penalized for using lethal force in repelling the attack.
I'd like to think I would drive off if that option was available to me... But when the glass breaks from some nut job trying to get at me, and I haven't driven off by that point, I'm shooting them.
If you have the ability (meaning you have the prescence of mind to make that determination)Quote:
And if you have the ability to drive away safely then that is an option one should consider instead of taking a life.
One should consider (meaning that it is an option that one should look at before killing someone
No where, not once did I say the lady had this option, nor did I say that even if it did exist that she realized it.
No where, not once did I say that you must leave instead of shooting
Point is that even in a "good shoot" by the law IF someone has the presecenc of mind to leave and can safely do so they should consider that.
Never once in that quote was I refering to the lady in this situation.
Just because one can take a life does not mean they should. Too many folks are cavalier of death. I swear there are some that are just out lookig for a "legal" reason to shoot someone. Not saying you or Harryball who gave your post a LIKE:wave:
Looking at the window on the driver's side in the video..... I'm not sure he busted the window, or when she shot it shattered it. To me, it does not appear to be a window 'busted' from hitting it but from the round(s) fired. That may play a big part in deciding how honest she is being about it.
Someone being mad, or feeling intimidated, is not in itself a justification for shooting. I have a feeling that is where this one is going to end up.
Be interesting how it plays out, what the station videos show, etc.
Bloodlust is for those that seek conflict, Bark'n and I do not participate in that type of activity. A legal means of defense, is just that, Legal. To be honest, I applaud her for not becoming a victim...
I am not talking about the lady!!! It was a general statement!...Anyway, how are things? Kids good? Texas is hot but getting used to it.
Im well, smoke free for 3 weeks now. Kids are good. Thanks for asking
Im happy to hear that you and your wife are doing well in your new home. That was a big move...For me the heat sucks. I am a polar bear, cold is good...LOL
Just curious, does anyone think they would have a different opinion about this story had it been a male (victim)? Just a thought. Some people do tend to make things more justifiable when it comes to female victims. From what i gathered from this story, I believe it was a "good shoot." Just a thought.