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Reacting to the Bad Guy

This is a discussion on Reacting to the Bad Guy within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Jaxon06 Yes, I understand its a drill. And that the guy that acts first wins. Which is a drill that has no ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon06 View Post
    Yes, I understand its a drill. And that the guy that acts first wins. Which is a drill that has no real purpose, other than you should have shot the guy right away.
    We ran this drill (similiar one) after we got new guys in from assessment. The reason it was done was to "prove" to the new hotshots that they are not as quick as they think. There is a gentleman that has posted on this thread that does not appear to believe that the result will be different than his "internet speed test".

    No, there is no tactical purpose. There is one of humility for those that do not believe that a guy with a gun by his side can shoot you before you can react.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    We ran this drill (similiar one) after we got new guys in from assessment. The reason it was done was to "prove" to the new hotshots that they are not as quick as they think. There is a gentleman that has posted on this thread that does not appear to believe that the result will be different than his "internet speed test".

    No, there is no tactical purpose. There is one of humility for those that do not believe that a guy with a gun by his side can shoot you before you can react.
    Exactly correct on the reason for the drill. This drill was run during the first hour of the first day, in front of the entire class. After the demo, we split up into smaller groups for the remainder of the training.
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    I don't see this as a "drill", but a demonstration. YMMV. So once its demonstrated that the first move wins, how is that added to the training regime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon06 View Post
    I don't see this as a "drill", but a demonstration. YMMV. So once its demonstrated that the first move wins, how is that added to the training regime?
    If you don't make a decisive hit on the BG it means nothing if you move first. Whoever gets the first decisive hit usually wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon06 View Post
    I don't see this as a "drill", but a demonstration. YMMV. So once its demonstrated that the first move wins, how is that added to the training regime?
    OK, we can call it a demo. It demonstrated the necessity of moving first.
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    Exactly. I think I was confused about why were letting the BG make the first move if he was already under our gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon06 View Post
    Which is a drill that has no real purpose, other than you should have shot the guy right away.
    The purpose is to learn that you are not superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon06 View Post
    Exactly. I think I was confused about why were letting the BG make the first move if he was already under our gun.
    Uumm.. He isn't under your gun. His weapon is already by his side, "yours" is in your holster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorri View Post
    Uumm.. He isn't under your gun. His weapon is already by his side, "yours" is in your holster.
    Negative, Ghostrider. According to the OP

    The good guy is instructed to assume his best ready-to-fire stance, aiming at the bad guy six feet away who is holding a pistol relaxed at his side.
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    I stand corrected. Sorry about that.

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    Lesson I take from this?

    "Don't go relaxing just because his gun is pointed somewhere else."

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