At what point would you feel justified jumping in?

This is a discussion on At what point would you feel justified jumping in? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Assuming you are in a public place (store, restaurant, theater or such) and a BG walks in. . . You are armed. (concealed) At what ...

View Poll Results: Assuming you are in a public place (store, reasturant, theater or such) and a BG walk

Voters
131. You may not vote on this poll
  • BG claims he has a gun, but gun is not visible - Demands money

    20 15.27%
  • BG claims he has a gun, but gun is not visible BUT BG is acting wild/irrational - Demands money

    4 3.05%
  • BG displays a gun - Demands money

    43 32.82%
  • BG displays gun and is acting wild/irrational - Demands money

    24 18.32%
  • BG is herding people to a back room or lining up everyone on their knees

    20 15.27%
  • BG pointing gun at individual(s) and threating imminent death

    12 9.16%
  • BG discharges firearm, but not at a person

    4 3.05%
  • BG shoots someone

    4 3.05%
Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 68
Like Tree25Likes

Thread: At what point would you feel justified jumping in?

  1. #1
    Member Array bcvojak's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Pacific NW
    Posts
    199

    At what point would you feel justified jumping in?

    Assuming you are in a public place (store, restaurant, theater or such) and a BG walks in. . .

    You are armed. (concealed)

    At what point would you feel justified jumping in?
    Somewhere in the Pacific NW

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    Senior Member Array Cold Shot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    880
    3 or 4, closer to 4

  4. #3
    VIP Member Array suntzu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    TX/NH
    Posts
    5,813
    Too many choices..We will end up debating the merits of each all weekend......and you forgot to add one that would be my first choice:

    Nonoe of the above-LEAVE if you can
    Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

    Isaiah 6:8

  5. #4
    VIP Member
    Array Mike1956's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Marion County, Ohio
    Posts
    10,144
    Five and eight.
    "When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk."
    Tuco

  6. #5
    VIP Member Array mlr1m's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    okla
    Posts
    4,298
    BG claims he has a gun, but gun is not visible - Demands money
    Not saying that I would jump in at this point personally. However if I was on the jury of a person who did I would have to say that they were justified.

    Michael

  7. #6
    Member Array _Hawkeye_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    KY
    Posts
    272
    BG displays gun AT ME, and I shoot him.


    IF BG displays to others, I watch and wait, if BG herds people then I shoot.
    HKinNY likes this.
    English is my second language, I have been told my use of it is harsh, apologies if this is the matter.

    You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun

  8. #7
    Distinguished Member Array 21bubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    ky.
    Posts
    1,890
    If I've got the shot I'm going on #3.
    Secret Spuk and pittypat21 like this.

  9. #8
    Member Array CPanther95's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    237
    Not sure when I would act without being there and seeing what my feel for the situation was. However, I can say that I would NEVER turn my back on the guy, and I would NEVER, EVER get down on my knees with my back to the guy - whether I was armed, or not.
    JDE101 likes this.

  10. #9
    Member Array lyz_grace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Atlanta
    Posts
    251
    I voted before I fully read the question

    In the event that it was in a public place and the BGs attention was not on ME, I'd say somewheres around #4. If it were a dark parking lot situation and it were just me and him, I'd take his word for it at #1 and he'd meet the LCP right then and there.

  11. #10
    Member Array BroBud's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    south MS
    Posts
    145
    The moment I feel my life is in imminent danger. There are so many variables we could identify and second guess... behavior, tone of voice, reaction/action. Based on the survey I would fall somewhere between 1 and 8.
    Welcome to my home, that door you just kicked in, was locked for your protection, not mine.

  12. #11
    Member Array MrsHB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    340
    I voted #5 but my "real" answer is always "it depends". The way the question and options are worded, it sounds as if there are lots of people around.

    If I'm trapped (e.g., BG is between me and the only exit) - it depends. If he's not looking in my direction, and his behavior shows he just wants money and really isn't eager to use the gun except to instill fear (1,2,3,4,6,7)... I'll probably slowly get my gun, but hope he leaves with no violence.

    If BG starts staging people for execution (5), or actually shoots someone (8), it's game on. I'm moving to exit WHILE shooting at BG, if I have a clear shot (if not, I'm just dodging and running as fast as I can, in hopes that his luck and skill in hitting a moving target with a handgun isn't any better than mine).

    This is a very personal question; we all have our own threshold and IMO there is no 'right' or 'wrong' answer. Just a question of what you can live with - if you live.
    40Bob likes this.
    "...people who carry a gun understand that they are arming themselves against a very unlikely event... People who arm themselves are not confused about the odds. They are concerned about the stakes. -Kathy Jackson
    NRA Life Member

  13. #12
    VIP Member
    Array atctimmy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NSA Headquarters
    Posts
    6,368
    I would say that at #3 and up I would feel justified in using lethal force. All of these things depend on the situation and my read on things in the moment. There is no real answer that can be absolute when you are in front of a keyboard.
    Once likes this.

  14. #13
    Member Array linuss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    DFW
    Posts
    301
    #3 without issue.


    Fact is, if they pull it out, they can point and shoot at any moment, and you'll have NO chance to react at that point, especially if they shoot you. It's as close to pre-emptive self-defense as you can get.

  15. #14
    VIP Member Array multistage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    NW Iowa
    Posts
    2,356
    He pulls a weapon, it's on.

  16. #15
    Senior Moderator
    Array pgrass101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Alabama
    Posts
    13,451
    #4 BG starts acting like he is going to go off, 8'm getting involved.

    BG says "I've got a gun" I'm going to reply "I've got one too"
    “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”

    ― Robert A. Heinlein,

Page 1 of 5 12345 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •