Tell me what you would say?
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October 1st, 2012 11:26 PM
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Tell me what you would say?
True story. Friday night my Wife and I went to a newly opened casino in a neighboring state. Had a nice dinner and played on the slot machines for a while. Wife goes through her money, $20.00, yah we are big gamblers. So I'm down to my last $5.00 out of my $20.00 and hit a jackpot. Win about $55.00 and play until I'm down to $41.55. Cash out and leave with $1.55 extra in my pocket but still out the dinner.
Anyway back to the reason for the post. We catch a ride out to the car on a modified golf cart. The driver drops us off and a car had just pulled in next to our car. Four people climb out of the car, two ladies and two men. The driver of the shuttle offers them a ride and they decline saying its a nice night and the girls want to walk. The shuttle driver leaves us alone In the parking lot with these people. Now I'm not carrying because we're not allowed to in the casinos. As the driver pulls away one of the guys turns to me and asks if we had a good time. Of course I tell him the truth and say we had a ball. Then one of the girls asks us if we had won any money. So I laugh and say yah we cleaned up, all 4 stop and turn toward us than I tell them I was up $1.55. All four laugh, wish us a safe trip home and wonder towards the casino.
Now I didn't feel threatened at all from these people. The body language from these people gave no sign of aggression. But of course I did keep myself between them and my wife. I had the doors unlocked and wife was in a position to get in the car.
As we get in the car I turn to my Wife, who is a former LEO, and ask her if she thought anyone was dumb enough to stand in a dark parking lot and tell 4 strangers they had just won a pocket full of cash. She just laughed and said well of course some would. We both laughed and drove off.
So my question to all of you is, do you think the sheep would brag about their winnings and probably get robbed?
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October 1st, 2012 11:32 PM
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Depends if the sheep were telling wolves, or other sheep.
Unlike real predators, people-wolves tend to rove in all male packs.. Not always, but most of the time.
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT
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October 1st, 2012 11:35 PM
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October 1st, 2012 11:35 PM
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Depends if the sheep had consumed some fermented beverages and their lips got loose.
Noli nothis permittere te terere
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October 1st, 2012 11:48 PM
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Sheep will likely fan out the bills and show you...
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
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October 1st, 2012 11:53 PM
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Was in Reno last weekend, heading to Vegas on Wed = carry of my primary high caliber side arm. I don't tell people any stuff, but will always be polite and assist anyone in need.
To answer your question. Nobody cares about your wife's or your safety as much as you should. Never trust anyone you don't know. Granted, most are nice folks and, but, um, in this down economy, everyone is coming up with new scams.
My 1.5 cents.
Semper Fi,
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October 2nd, 2012 12:04 AM
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I won! I won! I came to Reno in a $50,000 Cadilac and when home in a $500,000 Greyhound. :-) Don't ever trust your instincts about other sheep ... always be a serious loser if asked. Most times it is the truth anyway. When I worked in the casinos we would walk the lady dealers out to their cars. Sad but dark places are bad places especially if outnumbered.
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October 2nd, 2012 05:59 AM
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People do all sorts of dumb stuff, so I'm sure it's happened.
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
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October 2nd, 2012 07:31 AM
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It's not the sheep you need to worry about. It's the wolves in sheep's clothing.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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October 2nd, 2012 07:49 AM
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It's been over a decade since I've been to a casino, but naw, I wouldn't tell anyone if I left rolling or busted normally, but hey a judgement call on conversing with nice folks in a casino parking lot, or anywhere else for that matter, shouldn't be avoided either if your head is on stright and your not threatned in any manner.
"Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008
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October 2nd, 2012 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
Cold Shot
Not a lot.
To the point!!
If you disregard situational awareness, and that includes talking to people in scenarios that beg for it, you are apt to regret it.
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October 2nd, 2012 09:06 AM
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There are plenty of people out there that would not think twice about telling how lucky they are. The there are people like me who would just say if I had any money left I wouldn't be leaving.
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October 2nd, 2012 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
kelcarry
To the point!!
If you disregard situational awareness, and that includes talking to people in scenarios that beg for it, you are apt to regret it.
Gotta second this^^^^^
Never forget the reason for being prepared and aware. You never know when.
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October 2nd, 2012 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by
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It's been over a decade since I've been to a casino, but naw, I wouldn't tell anyone if I left rolling or busted normally, but hey a judgement call on conversing with nice folks in a casino parking lot, or anywhere else for that matter, shouldn't be avoided either if your head is on stright and your not threatned in any manner.
Exactly.
We're already losing the ability to have a real conversation with others due to email, forums, texting, IMs, facebook, twitter, and all the rest...
And while we talk all about situational awareness... for most it seems that SA means avoiding everybody else... walking on the same street, in the same parking lot, heading the same direction... SA means AVOIDANCE... Everybody else is a bogey.
We can't go to a convenience store after midnight, no scratch that.. .we can't go to a "Stop and Rob," EVER... we can't use an ATM, unless it's in the bank... and why go to the bank at all? Do all your banking online.
So, we all got our permits to carry guns... So, NOW we get to stay home, never go to the movies, avoid IHOP like the plague... Have our anniversary dinner in a well lit Denny's on Wednesday afternoon (that's probably safest).
Never go to the city for a play, they get out late and you'll be amongst people you don't know, in the dark. Never go to a pub or a tavern... nothing good ever happens in a bar. Never stay out after Midnight... Nothing good happens after midnight.
Now there's lotsa cool stuff we CAN do now that we got our gats and our permit...
We can buy a holster full of drawers! We can buy special belts to hold up our drawers and holster just right... We can dry fire practice any time we want at home in the basement or garage. We can buy just the right ammo, and we can go to the range actually carrying our gun and not have to worry about having it in a case in the trunk, ammo separate. We can shoot at paper plates (BOTH sizes!), Zombie TARGETS! Bleeding ZOMBIE targets! From 3 yards, 7 yards, and for the real operators, 50 yards with EO tech sights on our GLOCKS.
All the money we save from not going to movies and dinner and plays, we can spend on FOF training, CQB training, sniper training, knife training. (Do you stab or slash that hanging deer carcass? Sorry Lima, it's just one of those things that stuck and I remember)... We can learn how to disarm an assailant we will never meet because we're never out in the world.... Work, home, range, once a year Denny's, and cool classes with like minded assets...
Gives a whole new perspective to:
"Those who live by the sword will die by the sword" He didn't mean they'd die warriors in epic battles, or staving off thieves, or protecting the weak, or even protecting themselves... He meant "they'll die fondling their swords, having never lived."
LIVE... ENGAGE... BE HUMAN.... INTERACT... BUT ABOVE ALL, LIVE
okay, stepping down now. Next!
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT
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October 2nd, 2012 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
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So my question to all of you is, do you think the sheep would brag about their winnings and probably get robbed?
A criminal's decision to commit robbery happens well before your answer to their question. IMHO, bragging about a big night's winnings isn't the trip-point. Do you really think that intent felons will cruise the parking lot and risk discovery until they get "the right answer"? They're looking for prey opportunity, not tonight's jackpot. Someone alone, someone semi-drunk, someone parked in a remote dark corner would mean a better target. Criminals aren't stupid, they're just...criminals.
There are only TWO kinds of people in this world; those that describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.
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