What 'condition white' looks like

This is a discussion on What 'condition white' looks like within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Jeanlouise We'll see tomorrow which way it goes and have a better idea of what's ahead. My first thought was, why is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    We'll see tomorrow which way it goes and have a better idea of what's ahead.
    My first thought was, why is this case going to trial tomorrow? Then your meaning hit me. To try to equate the outcome of a presidential election to the crime rate in society is, misguided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    We'll see tomorrow which way it goes and have a better idea of what's ahead.
    By which I assume you mean if Romney wins it will suddenly become safe to walk down alleys?

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    What I mean is that there's one candidate for Socialism, entitlements and taxing small business and wealth to the point of extinction.It divides people and that isn't the way to get our country back on track and try to solve some of these social problems. That's all I'm going to say.
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeanlouise View Post
    What I mean is that there's one candidate for Socialism, entitlements and taxing small business and wealth to the point of extinction.
    This isn't an appropriate topic of DC which doesn't allow non gun politics. While many on this forum may agree with you, there are also a growing number of registered Democrats and others here who ardently support and believe in their constitutional rights and self defense. Your apparent view of these people is also inaccurate, which is something you may learn by hanging out here.

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    Not sure why there's so much 'he shoulda known' attitude towards the teacher. If a white teacher was caught on tape giving a group of black teenagers a 'wide berth', the PC community would have gone after him with fervor. Not to mention the fact that he shouldn't have to avoid kids the same age he teaches as school. There's even a chance he knows a couple of them. One is wearing a backpack and may be walking to/from that exact school.
    Now, that being said, I was a victim of this in 1994. The only thing that worked in my favor was the kid who tried to drop me was about 5" shorter than me and placed a bad hit. He actually aimed too high and got me in the front of my skull. Being naturally hard headed, I'm betting he broke one or two of his fingers, and I got a small split above my right eye that was more of a nuisance than painful. I was walking down a sidewalk in Dallas on Commerce when a group of about 6 kids decided I was a good target.
    It's easy to critique sitting in the comfort of my own home, but having actually gone through it, it happens too fast to prepare for it. Do I avoid large groups of teenage/young men today when I'm walking? Not really as it's sometimes just not possible. Do I keep my wits about me when I do walk by them? Yeah, my SA is pegged on Full. Do I have my wife walk behind and to my right when we go by groups- something avoidable in large cities like Chicago and NYC? Yeah, I do. I don't walk down alleys even if it's a huge shortcut and I always CC now.
    But, at no point would I ever say that this guy should have known better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pscipio03 View Post
    Do I have my wife walk behind and to my right when we go by groups- something avoidable in large cities like Chicago and NYC?
    Would you please elaborate on this from a tactical perspective? I am failing to understand the benefit.
    One thing to also keep in mind is that multiple, even unarmed, assailants is classic disparity of force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noway2 View Post
    Would you please elaborate on this from a tactical perspective? I am failing to understand the benefit.
    One thing to also keep in mind is that multiple, even unarmed, assailants is classic disparity of force.
    If they attack, they attack my left side. Hopefully giving my wife enough time to get out of dodge then pull her 642 on the turd merchants.
    Worst case, the time it buys will hopefully allow her to put distance between them. By her walking on my right side, I'm assuming we are passing the group on my left. Basically, I'm putting myself between her and any danger. Opposite side if we are passing on their right side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Well... the good news is, as the drones return from military deployment, there will be video of all of this, and everything else...
    You're not saying that this will help potential victims, are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I guess it's the victims' fault, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TxCommish View Post
    In this case, I think it was. The guy is obviously clueless. He doesn't slow down. He doesn't veer to the right to give himself a little more space between himself and the "herd." He has both hands occupied. He is walking down an alley in a big U.S. city.
    So it's the teachers fault for being sucker punched? That is like telling a kid that it's his fault for being bullied. If you clutch your gun everytime someone walks past you in a big city, you'll live your whole life in a panic. If this teacher pressed himself against the wall waited for these punks to pass, we would be having a discussion of how racist he was for assuming he was going to be attacked.

    There is no way to make this the victims fault.

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