"Bpttom line---"enhance" your comments to dispatcher about aggressive,"
Not a good idea when you call is being recorded. That itself may come back to "bite" you.
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"Bpttom line---"enhance" your comments to dispatcher about aggressive,"
Not a good idea when you call is being recorded. That itself may come back to "bite" you.
Thats the problem, the owners want the bad *** dog and thus make it that way, rather than properly training and socializing the dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sig35seven
Im liking the bear spray, Thanks, I'll look for it.. In reply to someones post about telling the neighbors ill put a cap in their dog, NOO I hear ya thats a no no, and most of the people are just dumb, because we live in a suburb area, with a major road dwon the street.. My dog is a shepherd who is real affectionate with people but not so with dogs, so I try to avoid the other dogs unless we are between fences, the spca told us that she likes big male dogs but not little male or female dogs..Anyway thanks for all ur input..
If you can shootand murder a dog in Florida, can you shoot an alligator too?
Dogs can't be murdered. No more than chickens, fishing worms or cattle can be. Murder is when a person unlawfully takes the life of another human.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogertc1
Michael
Dogs can be killed wrongfully. What you choose to call that is up to you (I have and will continue to call that murder). Regardless of what you choose to call it, it is a criminal act if you aren't justified in using deadly force.
My town is the same way. If no one is bitten the cops won't even show an interest in helping you. Also, no animal control officer after 5pm. Prime time? I also carry pepper spray when walking my dogs. Lots of strays in this neighborhood. Detours to avoid them are frequent. Have not yet been chased or threatened, but I am prepared to defend myself and my dogs if I am.
I didn't really chose it so much as I used the common English definition of murder in the dictionary. I see no reason to change the meaning of a word just to make a particular group feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo_Four
Michael
"Disappear light"
Use a live trap, remove the collar, assuming there is one, tie the dog to the fence at animal control. Even if the owner comes to pick it up, they will have to pay for boarding, at the very least.
I have gotten rid of feral cats that way, but instead of fooling with animal control, (they won't accept cats) I take them for a ride accross the river and release them. Someone elses problem, and no killing.
And yes. Animal control in my area is also all but worthless. If you call after hours, the call goes to police dispatch.
You mean homocide? A bunch of crows is a murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by mlr1m
murder = illegal homicide. Homicide = killing of a human.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldVet
Michael
No killing by you maybe. What do you think us rural folks do with those unwanted animals you dump on us?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarPD45
Michael
Here in CA where everything is governed by law its perfectly legal to shoot dogs not controlled by there owners. A dog killing, injuring, or even just worrying my livestock through the fence can legally be shot by the livestock owner or his representative.
One of our biggest problems here is that people from the neighboring city's dump there unwanted dogs and cats here. I guess they think they will find a nice ranch to live on. But most starve, get eaten by other predators, or turn to killing to survive. Those are mostly not afraid of people making them extra dangerous.
Most of the ranches here have a shoot on sight policy. DR
Unfortunately many, if not most people do not understand the social dynamics of dogs - that combined with irresponsible ownership can put their dogs and others in danger.
I have GSD and she is the world to me, and I am sensitive to others that feel the same way of these family members; however, some time ago, if someone asked, I would have said that I would not hesitate to use lethal force to stop a charging or attacking dog. Intellectually, I still feel that way, but this past summer I was put into that very scenario – I drew, but did not shoot.
It was late in the evening and as I was walking back up my driveway after putting out the garbage, an aggressive dog came out of nowhere and charged me. Interestingly, I was able to review this event on my security cameras. As an aside, it was a great opportunity to review and critique my training. As fast as it was charging me, I drew and had the dog on point, but I hesitated. In that hesitation, the animal stopped it its tracks about 12 feet from me. Someone suggested the dog may have been sprayed before and my posture reminded him of that experience. He continued to exhibit aggressive behavior, but walked around me and left.
Now, given my actions, this ended well. I didn’t dispatch someone’s dog and I avoided the drama it would have caused in my neighborhood. But those actions were tactically wrong. Had that dog not stopped, there would not have been enough time for me to act, and this could have ended very differently. If it were to happen again, I know what I should do, but you never know what you will do until the time when you must make that decision.
On the discussion of OC spray, I carry that too. All sprays are not created equal and there is a huge delta in their performance. In short, I strongly recommend Fox Labs.
Glad it appears the dog owners are cooperating with you on keeping them put up.