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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    I expect them to stayout of my buisness, and I will stay out of theirs.
    R-really? That's your response?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    R-really? That's your response?
    Actually yes. Lets just say this was an improper arrest. Lets just say the cop stopped them because they were black and illegally searched them. The cop is well protected from lawsuits, me if I helped in this illegal arrest am not well protected from lawsuits. Or lets just say that this went bad, very bad, and one of them knifed the cop. I have no doubt after that, that my "interference" would have been the cause. Or as the OP stated, a cop coming up on the scene sees me helping (I do not drink), and sees my gun (my shirt rides up during the struggle) and then shoots me. Oops, we're sorry you are dead. Or "The immigrant (me) was acting to prevent the arrest, had a gun, so it became necessary to shoot him."

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    You acted. You helped. You survived. The officer not only survived, but continued to accomplish/do his job and arrest the BG's. I'm sure he appreciated your assistance, even if it was unsolicited. As far as I'm concerned you did GOOD!!! Too many would have stood by and just observed without trying t help. I'd have to live with myself IF I were ever in that situation and did not assist. Just sayin!!!
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    Good man, in my opinion. I've heard a lot of stories of stops going bad, and I've talked to a lot of officers who know of other officers or have themselves had those experiences. Back a few years ago I took part in a "citizen's police academy" and came to understand why a lot of the behavior of officers in traffic stops happens, down to little details I'd never noticed. To this day I take a peek at traffic stops I drive by just to make sure. You never know.




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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    Actually yes. Lets just say this was an improper arrest. Lets just say the cop stopped them because they were black and illegally searched them. The cop is well protected from lawsuits, me if I helped in this illegal arrest am not well protected from lawsuits. Or lets just say that this went bad, very bad, and one of them knifed the cop. I have no doubt after that, that my "interference" would have been the cause. Or as the OP stated, a cop coming up on the scene sees me helping (I do not drink), and sees my gun (my shirt rides up during the struggle) and then shoots me. Oops, we're sorry you are dead. Or "The immigrant (me) was acting to prevent the arrest, had a gun, so it became necessary to shoot him."

    No thanks on all of it.
    Well for starters, if someone jumps a cop it's flat out wrong, bad arrest or not. And what would you have done if the BG got the cops gun a shot him? Be a good witness I imagine. I truly hope you never have to call 911. You sir are what my NYPD father would call "a cold *******".
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    Actually yes. Lets just say this was an improper arrest. Lets just say the cop stopped them because they were black and illegally searched them. The cop is well protected from lawsuits, me if I helped in this illegal arrest am not well protected from lawsuits. Or lets just say that this went bad, very bad, and one of them knifed the cop. I have no doubt after that, that my "interference" would have been the cause. Or as the OP stated, a cop coming up on the scene sees me helping (I do not drink), and sees my gun (my shirt rides up during the struggle) and then shoots me. Oops, we're sorry you are dead. Or "The immigrant (me) was acting to prevent the arrest, had a gun, so it became necessary to shoot him."

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    You get two-thumbs-up from me mg27.
    There's far too much of the "don't get involved" mentality these days. While some situations may warrant such an attitude, society has forgotten how to help their neighbors in time of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    Don't even know how to react to that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mg27 View Post
    I noticed a police officer talking with two black males (Please dont Imply that im a racist because I mentioned black male, if they were white or chinese Id say the same)
    I'm not PC at all, but I'm pretty sure that if the criminals were White or Chinese and you'd still say they were Black males - some may interpret that as racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post
    I'm not PC at all, but I'm pretty sure that if the criminals were White or Chinese and you'd still say they were Black males - some may interpret that as racist.
    I was thinking that same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post
    I'm not PC at all, but I'm pretty sure that if the criminals were White or Chinese and you'd still say they were Black males - some may interpret that as racist.
    No lol what I was saying is that if they were white or chinese I would also say they were chinese, in other words Im telling it like it was, they were black males.. The news media today makes it like a crime to Identify the suspects of a crime, for instance after zimmerman, Jane velez mitchell was saying,"Why do the police have to say BLACK MALE instead of a MALE... Its ridiculos

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    I wouldnt sit here and tell you that black males jumped on the cop if it werent the fact, if they were white I would say they were white, Thats what I was trying to say.

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    Long time ago when I was a deputy a armed citizen came to my aid and I don't think its a dumb move I think you did right
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    Actually yes. Lets just say this was an improper arrest. Lets just say the cop stopped them because they were black and illegally searched them. The cop is well protected from lawsuits, me if I helped in this illegal arrest am not well protected from lawsuits. Or lets just say that this went bad, very bad, and one of them knifed the cop. I have no doubt after that, that my "interference" would have been the cause. Or as the OP stated, a cop coming up on the scene sees me helping (I do not drink), and sees my gun (my shirt rides up during the struggle) and then shoots me. Oops, we're sorry you are dead. Or "The immigrant (me) was acting to prevent the arrest, had a gun, so it became necessary to shoot him."

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    I would help an officer out. And I'm sure the one you helped was grateful for your actions.
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    sometimes spur of the moment thoughts trump logical reasoning... good thing it worked out.
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