Boy this topic is going south fast.
Boy this topic is going south fast.
Oneshot was right. My objective was to get people thinking on how & what they may look for in assessing a similar situation. Being able to make assessments is an important part of SA.
Some people did panic and actually left their carts and ran out of the store. Others just left the area; and four or five big guys just stood back keeping their distance. I think all are/were viable choices.
I'm sorry if the story fell short & didn't hit the "Rambo" button some people seem to want it to.
First of all, standing at the end of the aisle out of the way of the objects being thrown...standing off to the side of the aisle is not like ducking behind cover while in a gunfight.Quote:
Sorry but I'm not the type of person who would just stand by and be a "good witness" when someone is in danger.
I'd quickly scan the people around me and I'd point to one of the more responsible looking adults and I'd give them the following command: "You! Call 911 immediately! Tell them they MUST send the police NOW! Will you do that for me?" Hopefully the first person I instruct responds with a yes. By doing this I can place my full concentration on where it needs to be.
Since he is already "threatening to hurt her" and "It really looked like it could go bad FAST!", I'd attempt to deescalate the situation while maintaining a safe distance. I'd shout from behind cover at the end of the aisle. I'd say something like, "STOP! STOP! STOP! The Police have been called! Please back away from one another! The police are on their way." Hopefully this will result in some sort of deescalation and we can all wait for the police to arrive without further incident. If it doesn't, I'd continue to say the same thing until the police arrive or until it became evident that physical harm was imminent.
Obviously after observing the two people for a "few seconds" I would see what the three guys saw and what the OP saw (but failed to share in his original post) instead of "see" what my mind pictured based on the information given in the original post. I would have reacted entirely different since the situations are entirely different once the OP shared the additional facts about what he actually witnessed during his initial assessment of the situation.
The OP got what he wanted...a response to a situation that wasn't present but plausible based on his selective sharing of the facts.
For some odd reason the OP seems like he wanted to show everyone how clever he could be by withholding certain details and that he could bait someone (me) into stating a reaction that would seem so out of place once the additional details were revealed. Ha ha ha, the joke is on me...I fell for it.
Personally, I think it is in very poor taste that the OP would use the story of an outburst by a mentally handicapped person as form of entertainment for himself on this forum to try and bait someone into saying that they would reacting inappropriately toward the mentally handicapped person...that is just sick and inappropriate if you ask me.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're a little too invested in this. It was meant to be a make-you-think moment. The OP was not trying to be a deceitful, malicious smartass as you seem to have just called him. We understand that you originally gave an answer that would have been different had you been given more information. No need for hurt feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1MoreGoodGuy
And by the way, your "Rambo" comment is all on you since your original post contained an incomplete assessment of the situation. You purposely manipulated the information to paint a picture of something that wasn't happening to get a reaction that you wanted...kind of like what was done to the Zimmerman 911 tape on certain news broadcasts...certain details were purposely left out to give the impression of a different story.
I have better things to do with my time.
Wow. Lots of words in these posts. Can someone make this easy and pick a side for me and let me know who I can insult?
I'd like to know if the police spoke to the mom and asked her why she brought him to the store in the first place. This guy doesn't sound like someone who should be out in public. What if he had actually started beating his mother or the police?
We don't lock a person up in this country simply because they have a mental handicap. If it is proven that this person is a danger to himself or others then measured steps need to be taken to help prevent this person from harming himself and others but we don't lock up the handicapped because they have an emotional outburst which didn't harm anyone.
Glad noone got hurt! I am not six three so I always keep potenial danger at least 21 feet.I think when posts like this come up we must remember you are only suppose to engaged your weapon if you feel your life is at risk.This post is exactly the way
it should be handled.If you want to jump in every confromtation apply to be a cop. Thanks for a great post!!!!