Glad the outcome was good. Oh, and slow down...
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Well I like to drive fast and I knew it was only a matter of time and today it happened. Got pulled over going 76 in a 65 by a state trooper on the highway today while carrying. He said he was going to give me a warning straight away as I handed him my license and CC permit. He immediately casually asked if I had a firearm in my possession which of course I said yes, on my right hip. He told me to make sure I don't reach for it so we don't have any "misunderstanding" and told me he would be right back. Coming back to the car I noticed him unlatch his strap on his holster and walk back hand on pistol till he could once again see my hands. He gave me the warning and leaned in my passenger window to tell me that I wouldn't believe how many people when asked if they had a weapon immediately reach for it. I said that is one mistake I was never willing to make. He then told me to "be safe" and reached in and shook my hand.
I have never had a police officer shake my hand after pulling me over (yes it happens often). The tone of his voice and his gesture while he didn't say it I could tell was in relation to my carrying. Overall a good experience and the officer was extremely professional. While in Wisconsin you are not required to notify police while carrying I feel that it is a matter of courtesy to the officer. Had he asked me to get out of the car for any reason it would have only complected things if I needed to tell him at a later point that I was carrying.
Glad the outcome was good. Oh, and slow down...
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
Lots of good LEOs out there. Glad you both handled the situation as it should be handled. Slow down just a little bit? Stay safe.
Had this happen myself a while ago here in MI. Here we are required to notify right away and in doing so, I asked the officer if he would like to disarm me for the duration of our interview. (I know I didn't have to offer this, but did it as a courtesy and because I have heard that some LEOs prefer this and feel safer). He seemed a bit, well, I don't want to say confused exactly, but I kind of guessed that he either hadn't seen this exact scenario before, or that he wasn't expecting me to be armed or to offer to let him disarm me. Anyway, he asked me where the firearm was, and then reached in to remove it from my holster at 3 o'clock. I wouldn't have done it that way with him reaching across me, but I wasn't about to reach for it myself with his partner watching from the other side of the car. Anyway, he took such a long time I was sure I was going to get a ticket, but when he came back he just gave me a warning and thanked me. Not sure what he was thanking me for, but his partner left my pistol behind the passenger seat and just asked me not to retrieve it until they were under way. They never unloaded it, which I half expected them to do.
Anyway, the long and short of it is that I felt that he treated me differently than I had ever been treated by a LEO during a traffic stop before and the one thing that was different was that I was carrying. I think it helped that I was very respectful because he had to have clocked me at +12 psl. I also have a very clean driving record so he must figured it was a fluke. That was my assumption because we didn't talk about my speed at all except at the end when he said to slow down, almost as afterthought.
I'm glad it went well for you but I agree with the others... slow down! CC means acting more responsibly than others. It's possible that your speeding could be perceived as an escalation of sorts. And speeding just doesn't save you any time. The time you were saving was lost when you got pulled over. End of lecture!
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Informing is always appreciated. Even if you arent required, it's appreciated, so thanks
Always nice to hear these little anecdotes...
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Glad the stop went smoothly, as it should. I firmly believe the vast majority of LEO's are good, professional officers.
Sounds like a good stop.
People need to realize LEO's are like us, 99% are out there doing their job the right way. It's the 1% who are bad apples everyone hears about.
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I can tell you that, at least in Tennessee, there is a very, very high probability that the officer approaching your car already knows you have a concealed carry permit. When an officer pulls you over, before he approaches your car, he calls in your tag to Dispatch. This allows him to find out if the car is stolen, if you have any outstanding warrants, etc. Here in TN, carry permits are linked to our Driver License which is, in turn, linked to our license plate. The dispatcher will tell the officer if the car they have pulled over belongs to a carry permit owner.
It is my belief that it is best to volunteer your ID whether required to or not.
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Boy, you are lucky. The FL state troopers are well known for giving their mothers tickets. Never even heard of one of tehm giving a warning. They feel if they have to stop you, they're writing a ticket. "Over 9 and you're mine" is their saying.
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My take is that LEO's are out there helping protect the safety of my family. In the course of keeping society safe they walk up to pulled over cars, in the dark, often alone. That would scare the crap out of me to do that, and the least I can do is show respect and courtesy by informing.
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Glad this went so well for you.
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My understanding is that her in WI they do not have the ability to know that you have a CCL by running your plate/name.