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The Ultimate Question,: What would YOU do If YOU got pulled over by a LEO?

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    I was stopped a few years ago while the cops were doing a manhunt for a cop killer. Handing my license to the cop I said, "...and sir, I would like to tell you that I have a concealed carry permit and am carrying this evening." He smiled and said, "Everyone is, these days."

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    In Iowa we don't have to inform the officer. I havn't been stopped since I started carrying. My CC class instructor, (who is a former LEO), said that if you just cooperate with the officer there is no need to inform him. If you're asked to step out of the vehicle, then you should tell him that you have a permit FIRST (so you're sure he heard it), then tell him you're armed. If you tell him you're carrying a weapon before you say you have your permit, then all they will hear is you have a gun and act accordingly.
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    For everybody that says "an officer just wants to get home safe to his family" I have this to ask-How many LEO's have been shot on a traffic stop by a CCp holder that notified him he had a firearm on him?

    That arguement does not even make sense. Besides, I thought the whole idea of nitifying (if it is your option) is to put the officer at ease and to be courteous. Which BTW I don't understand either. You can be polite and courteous while doing what you are allowed to legally and how on earth is it putting the officer at ease if he didn't kknow you had a gun any way.
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    The Ultimate Question,: What would YOU do If YOU got pulled over by a LEO?

    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    For everybody that says "an officer just wants to get home safe to his family" I have this to ask-How many LEO's have been shot on a traffic stop by a CCp holder that notified him he had a firearm on him.
    Agreed, its BS. Let's be blunt, if whomever they are pulling over really wants them dead, chances are they will be.

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    Re: The Ultimate Question,: What would YOU do If YOU got pulled over by a LEO?

    I have to inform here when stopped. I've never had any issue with LEOs going paranoid on me when informing...never even had one ask to see the firearms. The few I've dealt with have always had some sort of comment such as: "glad you're carrying since you have your permit". No hands on their own guns or drill instructor tones. That probably wouldn't go well around here.

    I can't see how any officer would feel that extra administrative handling of a holstered or secured firearm in the posession of a licensed carrier is making anyone more safe. Few LEOs are masters of their own firearms, and jacking around with a firearm he or she may not be familiar with is in my opinion much more dangerous than just leaving the gun(s) alone.

    Only my opinion though. I'm not knocking any LEOs as I'm friends with some dang good ones. I just don't see where the need comes from for an officer to be handling anyone else's firearms. And, luckily for me, that is the opinion of most local departments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Well, when a Law Enforcement Officer needs to exert control over a potentially life threatening scenario he/she will do so using a commanding voice coupled with raised volume and a harsh tone.
    That's how I deal with dogs that act untrained or ill mannered. They respond as most people do, kind of like, "Maybe I shouldn't mess with this one."
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    It is the Law in Ohio. I do inform. Sometimes I get good results, sometimes not so good. LEOs are people, people are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    That's how I deal with dogs that act untrained or ill mannered. They respond as most people do, kind of like, "Maybe I shouldn't mess with this one."
    I honestly fiind it amusing when someone does the "voice" with me if I had done nothing wrong. Quite honestly, from the DI's in basic training to a LEO using his command voice it don't matter. They could easily have said in BT"give me 50" in a soft voice and it would have had the same affect.

    Now, I do admit I saw folks peeing there pants when yelled at and it does cause a reaction.
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    This subject seems to constantly get re-hashed doesn't it? Since I live in a must inform state I won't be taking your poll for obvious reasons. But here is my two cents worth;

    At my age I can say I have had contacts with LE a number of times. Nothing more serious than a traffic stop, check or witness account. (Except when I found myself at gunpoint by BG's but that's another story). I have always treated LEOs with respect. Yes, they do work for us. But we also give them a badge and authority. It's not a perfect system since they are human the same as we are. There are bad LEOs out there for sure.

    But as a citizen I will always show them the respect they are due. You probably don't run into too many life threating situations working on cars. It is very likely that many officers get nervous when they realize you have a gun. But it's you he is worried about, not the gun. And if a hammer, ice pick or knife had the same destructive power as a gun you wouldn't bother with a CHL and we wouldn't have this discussion. Just because you have a CHL doesn't mean you aren't a nut or that you just decided that you would drive to work and shoot people. If the LEO wants to diffuse a possible situation, and it is his/her right to do so, then we should cooperate and give them our respect.

    As with any profession there can be improper behaviour. Treat the encounter with the LEO the same as you would any other contact. You can choose to ask them to please treat your weapon with more care and respect. You can take pictures if it scratched your car and go to their supervisor. They have bosses too and worry about public relations the same as any company would.

    It hasn't been all that long since we changed the laws concerning carrying a gun. There is still a lot of fear and misinformation out there. We, the honest gun owner, are only now compiling some positive stats in our favor. As time goes along perceptions will change as well. And as honest, legal gun owners we need to remember that we're on the same side as the LEO. IMHO they are our allies, not our foe.

    Finally, if you live in a state that doesn't require you to inform you must make your own decision about how to handle an encounter with an LEO while CCing. But know this. Even if I encounter a 'bad' LEO I would rather receive a 'dressing down' than a bullet any day.
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    As required in NC, I'd say, "Hey pig, I'm packing, whatcha gonna do about it? Huh?"

    Not really.

    I would say, before he said a word (as required in NC), "Officer, I have a CCP in my left front pocket and a Glock at 4:00. Just so you know."

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    But, but, but....... Only the Police should have guns............

    Can't answer this poll because there are not enough options............ Not a very good poll.

    My answer, it depends. No I will not when not required to by law. Yes I will when required to by law.
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    SC is also a must inform state, So I tell if stopped by LEO. It got me out of a ticket once, the officer was a concealed carry instructor and liked the fact that I had a permit.

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    in KS we do not have to inform. Never been pulled over while armed. my plan is to hand them my CDL and my permission slip saying that i can use my 2A right (for now). My reason is if he's good ol boy, like most of us are here, he might ask what kind and where, how ya like that thing, ect ect. If he's an ass, well he's an ass, besides they know just as soon as they run your DL here anyways so it won't be secret for long

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    Speeding, waist-band carry, informing when not required by law...you got it going on.
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    I look suspicious regardless of what I am wearing and usually am on my motorcycle so I am usually dressed down for riding. I would do my usual.

    Kickstand down, Turn off the bike (Short drag pipe), Hands over back of head and wait or hands on handle bars (depending on the bike im on) hands open.

    once the officer gets to my side (played out like this a few times) I would give them license and ins. (once I get my CCL) The license would go with them as well.

    The few times Ive been pulled over was for "speeding" (Been pulled over leaving a stop light and apparently i was speeding while i was sitting there) and they ask about the bike and let me off with a warning.
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