Ruined My Lunch

Ruined My Lunch

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    Ruined My Lunch

    Some of you will be relieved that this did not happen while I was camping…

    Since my office is “officially” no carry for employees (legacy of the former manager- need to get it changed), I usually leave my CCW piece locked in my console. Our parking lot is a busy place, and I have no concerns about it being stolen during the workday. Anyway, earlier this year I went to Burger King for lunch, and inadvertently left the gun in the car (dumb). As I walked out of the dining room into the parking lot, I heard some shouting between two men. The first one “Mr. Meth Head” was standing next a truck a few spaces away from my vehicle, and the other “Mr. Man Purse” was standing next to the entrance of a Brakes Plus across the access road. My first thought was to get to my vehicle, where I am now in control of my own escape plan, plus my weapon. Upon getting in my Jeep, I started the engine and remained in the space to assess the situation. Mr. Meth Head, short, skinny, white, late 50’s, wearing grubby cloths and driving a beat-up old truck, was upset that Mr. Man Purse, tall, kinda chubby, white, middle 40’s, wearing polo and shorts with a male satchel, had waited too long to make a left hand turn across traffic to enter the shopping center.

    Normally, I would tend to side with Mr. Man Purse, but not this time. Every time the heated wave of insults seemed to be dying down, Mr. Man Purse would taunt Mr. Meth Head again, either by voice or gestures, including jumping up and down like a monkey. Thinking it was best to be a good witness, I called 911, and informed them that this war of words was escalating, with it being just a matter of time before the two men became physically engaged. While I was on the phone, Mr. Meth Head, standing about 20 feet away to the side of my rear bumper, said something to the effect of “I’ve got something to fix you…” and stated rummaging in his truck. I think I communicated my thoughts directly to the operator with an “Oh crud!, Here we go!, He’s going for a weapon!”

    What a fun lunch! Here I am, sitting in my vehicle, right next to where a guy is going to starting shooting up the place. As I discreetly as I could, I opened the console and put my CCW piece into my lap. I did not want to draw any more attention to myself by backing out of the parking space and driving away, essentially right into the confrontation path. As the 911 operator assured me that units were very close, Mr. Meth Head pulled something out of the truck, but it was a tool of some type, not a gun. Just after, a cruiser (no lights, no siren) pulled into the backside of the Brakes Plus.

    Both men saw this, with Mr. Meth Head nonchalantly getting into his truck, and Mr. Man Purse going into the Brakes Plus. Within another minute or two, about three more cruisers showed up. Figuring him to be the “guilty” party, they secured Mr. Meth Head and put him into the back of a cruiser, while simply questioning Mr. Man Purse. After about 10 minutes I removed my company polo (with name and logo) and approached one of the officers. I told him my observations, that while Mr. Meth Head probably started the confrontation, Mr. Man Purse was just as culpable for escalating and continuing it. The officer thanked me, and within another couple of minutes, both men were enjoying the back seat of their respective cruisers. I provided the officers with my contact info, but nothing ever came of it.

    The adrenalin dump took awhile to go away, with my hands still mildly shaking even after driving back to the office. Please comment on the event and my actions.

    Thanks!

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    Witnessed and reported without *anyone* doing anything deadly and able to type about it now?

    Sounds like a good day to me...
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    I say good looking out on your part, well done.
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    Love that adrenalin rush... Sounds like a great day at the office and yes, you need to get your no carry changed at the office. This incident could help change it if you don't tell them where it happen, just let them assume it was close to the office...
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    Good call on the 911 call. Usually I wouldn't think anything of a verbal argument, but it's a good thing you had called and the cops got there before Mr. Meth Head was able to start ruining Mr. Man Purse's face.
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    Ruined? No you did what good citizens do and got entertained too.
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    yeah, ruined because you didn't have any popcorn.
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    I think you did good, a good citizen reporting a situation that had the possibility of getting violent. Sounds like you got some good entertainment to go with your lunch break.
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    I think you did well, call the police and wait it out. No reason to get involved here.

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    Right! Until it escalates, just be a good witness...and stay out of the line of fire...

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    Good job.

    Witness - check
    Reported - check
    Briefed officers - check
    Weapon not used - check

    Can't get much better than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkh View Post
    Good job.

    Witness - check
    Reported - check
    Briefed officers - check
    Weapon not used - check

    Can't get much better than that.
    ditto!

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    I don't know what I would have done in this case however I will save what you did for future reference. Thanks for the heads up info and yes you did have a good day.

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    The only thing I would have done differently was I would have moved my vehicle to a safer location, further away from any potential conflict between the two individuals and out of the potential line of fire in case one or both of them were armed, Then I would have called 911, etc.
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    Sounds to me like you did exactly what we're all told to do in a case like this. Good job. I call that a great lunch! Free entertainment too!
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