Road rage, close to home.
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GARNER, N.C. (WTVD) -- A Garner man is speaking out after being shot in an apparent road rage ...
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December 13th, 2012 05:09 PM
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Road rage, close to home.
Driver: Road rage incident led to shooting
GARNER, N.C. (WTVD) -- A Garner man is speaking out after being shot in an apparent road rage incident.
Justin Summers said he was shot on N.C. Highway 50 just south of U.S. Highway 70 in Garner on Dec. 2 just before 9 p.m.
The bullet went through Summers' chest, traveled just outside his collarbone and exited his right armpit. Had it been inside the collarbone, it probably would have torn through vital organs and killed him.
Summers said the incident started as he was driving east on U.S. 70 through Garner. He said a man in a white Chevy Impala was tailgating him. So, he pulled to the right and got behind the car to give the guy a dose of his own medicine.
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"I moved over to the center lane, the turn lane in the middle of the road and I stopped to let him go," said Summers. "He pulled up beside me, rolled down his window. I rolled down my window. He like, 'What's up?' I said 'What's up?' and then he shot me."
Driver: Road rage incident led to shooting | abc11.com
If someone is tailgating just pull over and let them go, don’t try to give him a taste of his own medicine.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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December 13th, 2012 05:12 PM
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There is more to this story than has been reported here I'm thinking. Certainly a huge lack of situational awareness huh?
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December 13th, 2012 05:16 PM
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I had an incident many years ago which stopped me from "giving the medicine back." I was just coming off the West Seattle Bridge when a car came up to me quickly with their headlights on high and were right on my tail. I had no way to move over but I foolishly bumped my brakes a bit and then sped up. They took off around me and then gave that same treatment to me and I went around them and then turned at my turn and, as I was turning, I heard a shot and saw a flash. Didn't hit me or my car but it cured me of doing that.
Not all Road Rage takes two to become rage though. But most of the time it does have two players where one should not be playing and just ignore it.
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December 13th, 2012 05:36 PM
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Too many crazy people on the road to even think about engaging bad drivers.
I know that it's hard to let 'jerks' have the right of way even if they are in the wrong, but it is not worth the time to engage.
Let it go, and in a very short time it is forgotten.OMOYMV
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December 13th, 2012 05:41 PM
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Road rage, close to home.
Is it my imagination or is violent road behavior becoming more common? It sure seems to have in the area I travel between Durham and Greensboro.
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December 13th, 2012 06:18 PM
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Why I drive a 16 year old F250 and I am not really all that worried about my paint. I could afford a nicer ride.... but this one gets me down through traffic without ever being 'noticed'......... As far as you know, I'm just another contractor working my way through life.
To be fair - my commute is very short on the Freeway..., and I always plan not to be in a hurry, I do 'wave' people to get in front of me on the Freeway..if they use a turn signal (which I consider to be polite)..... I do. I got no issues with that.
As for my truck.... several people, which I see every day on the same commute, now understand how I will react (overtly, but as a Polite person) if they have overly bad manners.
Getting shot, over driving, is not anyone's idea of a good day. It is easier to always just drive away, or in my case, use my 10,000 pounds of vehicle to remove myself from the situation.
For all you 'Military Guys and LEO' out there. If you have ever attended some good offensive driving skills courses.............. you know what I mean.
Bump them and then get on '911'. Let the LEO work it out. Only because we must trust that LEO will eventually see the 'truth' of the situation, however, I have seen some very lazy LEO incident reports................... sloppy.
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December 13th, 2012 06:33 PM
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Like has been said many times here. If you play stupid games, expect to win a stupid prize.
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December 13th, 2012 06:41 PM
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Well, I guess we know "what's up." I agree, it may be hard to do sometimes but definitely safer to let it go.
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December 13th, 2012 07:24 PM
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Is it my imagination or is violent road behavior becoming more common? It sure seems to have in the area I travel between Durham and Greensboro.
There have always been bad drivers. I think what has become more common is people trying to get back at someone.
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December 13th, 2012 07:40 PM
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the way that story is written makes no since. you were behind him and he followed you and shot you... he would have to made a u-turn ????
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December 13th, 2012 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Is it my imagination or is violent road behavior becoming more common? It sure seems to have in the area I travel between Durham and Greensboro.
I know this area of travel real well because I went to school in Greensboro many years ago and it was crazies in the area back then.
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December 14th, 2012 01:28 AM
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There is more to this story than has been reported here I'm thinking.
Perhaps. But perhaps not. There are plenty of such situations, in which a perceived "diss" is paid back in spades. Outright lashing out with tit-for-tat crap as apparently happened in this case? Well worth a bullet or two, in the minds of some murderous types.

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Summers said he will never again be involved in a road rage incident. He not only wants to serve as an example to others, but he wants to warn others that [t]he man who doesn't mind shooting a stranger is still on the streets.
Yeah, that guy and probably thousands of others just like him. Perhaps the "victim" is waking up to how real reality can be, in practice. It's about time.
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