Recently I observed a short class that I have my issues with, but it did get me to thinking. The class was told that if you are ever held up and demanded to hand over your wallet, toss it away from you and away from the bad guy. The bad guy will want to follow what he wants, so he will try follow the wallet. This is supposed to give you an opportunity to retreat. This got me to thinking, handing over a wallet in and of itself is no big deal, its what is IN the wallet that turns it into a big deal. Money, credit/debit cards, and my identity.
Does anyone carry a Back-up Wallet - and empty one, or with some token or trivial stuff that can be "thrown away" without any worry of loss of identity?
Always carry a throw-down wallet in my left back pocket. Contains a $10, 5, and two ones; a few expired credit cards with all the identifying info scratched off, and a few business cards, (nothing in there identifying me).
Carry my real wallet in my right back pocket.
At first I thought BUW meant "Back Up Weapon" - carry a few of those also.:wink:
my wallet has a half inch thick 2 ft chain with a heavy hook at the end of it. No problems with pick pockets and no ones ever asked me for it but if they do thats 10 for the wallet, 1 for a new chain and 8 for the hook, But if I have to I have a money clip that can store my license and money.
Back up wallet is a nice idea, but really doesn't work.
Seen stories of people held at gun point for their money. If someone is taking the time to hold you at gun point, they knew they have a few minutes to do what they want. Taking out your "fake" wallet and throwing it is just go to make them stand there and ask you to empty all your pockets.
It works in places like Europe at gypsies. They are interested more in the art of pickpocketing than violence to steal. Letting them pick a "fake" wallet is a good idea for them as they are there for the quick lift and to be gone after. It doesn't work for a mugging where threat of violence is given.
Never done that, good idea though. I have been searching for a new wallet or something easier. My front pockets stay pretty full. iPhone and chapstick in front left, keys, knife on clip, and pepper spray(if I'm somewhere I can have spray but not gun) in front right. The wallet stays in my back pocket unless I am in a big city I cram it in the front.
Then there's the variation where you tie a piece of fishing line to it. When the bad guy goes to pick it up, you yank it away at the last minute. Great gag - sure to get a laugh every time.
Nah, I just plan on shooting him.
Seriously.
Drawing against the draw is lousy odds, but better than entrusting the stranger threatening to kill you, to not actually do so.
Shoot Dude why go halfway?? Make a tiny charge to set off/deploy the DYE Pack and CS gas. Get a Velcro closing wallet and use those LEGAL Pull Apart Poppers to set it off.
One episode of Burn Notice had them trying to fool some bad guys with a suitcase or bag full of fake cash. Rather than printing out fake stuff, they just cut up some newspaper.
That'd be a legal way to pack out a wallet. Haven't tried it so I don't know how well it'd work.
As for the robber just asking you to empty out the rest of your pockets, I think it'd at least buy you a fraction of a second, which might be enough to draw your own weapon and reverse the roles in some situations.
As for the robber just asking you to empty out the rest of your pockets, I think it'd at least buy you a fraction of a second, which might be enough to draw your own weapon and reverse the roles in some situations.
It'd give you enough time to ATTEMPT to draw your weapon and end up get'n yer ass well ventilated. If you've let somebody get the drop on you you're in a real bad fix, don't make a bad situation worse by getting yourself killed because you think you're some kind of smoothe James Bond type.:frown:
This is really got me to thinking and I have been saving my receipts from purchases I paid cash for, finding a few odds and ends. I don't see me doing this everyday but I think there are times it might not be a bad idea, it might at least distract the BG for a moment anyway. I think I will keep maybe $10-20 in it so if I'm somewhere I think I'm being watched just use it. Who would ever think "hey this guy has another wallet in his front pocket"?
I carry my wallet inches away from my gun so when my hand comes out from behind me, the BG takes his chances on what he might get. It depends on the situation I am in at the time and who I may be with.
I carried a second wallet if my friends and I went out drinking when I lived in the dorms at college. Muggings were starting to become weekly and my group got split up every now and then. My expertise was running years ago and very few would've been able to catch me back then (knife-wielding muggers typically aren't collegiate track stars) so I figured a couple seconds was all I needed to get away. I'm not sure what I would've done if someone was with me. I guess that's why I never brought girls back with me (just kidding).
...I know of one old sheriff's deputy who drew and put five rounds into the man who'd just put one through his heart...it ain't over unless you give up...it's a personal choice...
yeah we all think about this senario, i ve always thought I would say no problem Ive got 600 in my pocket just take it all the time iam talking Iam pulling out my SP101 and am not stopping for nothing pull an shoot I ve told the wife that if it happens an she see,s me going for my pocket to just get behind me an down. I try not to be in that position we go nowhere that you would think it would happen. We do 99% of banking an bill paying on line probably the worst place we go is the gas station and my head is on a swivel other than that we live fairly uneventful nice an easy lives in our retirement.
...you've got a better chance at beating his shot if you go for your gun when he demands your wallet...he's expecting motion then and will take a bit more time identifying that you're giving him something besides your wallet...if you hand over or toss the wallet...then make another dive with your hand...he's more likely to realize you're drawing and shoot...I'd rather take my chances than let him call the shots...I like me better than he does...
If I put 15 dollars in my "fake" wallet I wouldn't have any money to put in my real one. If I was being mugged and thought that giving him my wallet would end the confrontation I might do it, I have one credit card and my CWP, if I thought it wouldn't then I guess I have to go to plan B, and I really don't want that happening.
I don't know what world some of you live in, but I grew up in the Big Apple and presently call Las Vegas, NV home. The jury pools between the two naturally would be made up of different folks even though this is a blue state(why I have no idea!) I find it astonishing with all we know about Texas, they don't allow open carry but this state does.
Never get in a shooting unless your life or that of a loved one's is on the line. Property isn't worth it.
Anyway, in whichever state I find myself, I am not shooting or drawing on a guy who asks for my car keys, wallet, bracelet or wedding ring. It's simply not worth it. That's what insurance is for. If the guy has a gun, I'm still behind the curve so I would need a distraction like throwing a wallet, possibly faking a heart attack, etc... All I need is one second to get even on the curve.
I've taken some world class training. Doesn't make me world class, but I feel secure enough carrying each day that I'm coming home at night. And remember just because your hit doesn't mean your out of the fight.
If I had a backup wallet, with my memory I'd probably give up the wrong one and get shot for not having any money. I spent all my money on guns and ammo. Go figure.
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