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    I am wondering what would be legal to do in this situation.

    » VIDEO: Woman Screams For Help After TSA Molestation Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    Thispart is what had me curious.

    “If it is skin to skin, if someone were to take their hand and put it underneath somebody’s blouse and touch someone inappropriately and go skin to skin, that’s a felony, and if it’s done simply over the clothing, according to California law, that’s a misdemeanor,” said Wagstaffe.

    If police merely did their job and enforced existing laws by arresting TSA agents who molest Americans, whether that be in airports, at train stations, highways, bus terminals, prom nights or wherever else TSA workers are used, then there would be no need for new legislation.
    If someone were to groap you (females) or your wife/spous (Males) would you be justified in doing anything to protect them/yourself?
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    Best way to avoid this altogether is to drive.

    If you're thinking you can assault a TSA screener, to protect the dignity or whatever of your spouse, you're going to find yourself locked up, wondering why you didn't just drive. And don't think for a minute that you won't be charged with assault. Yes, you might win in court, but you're going to jail right now. Promise. Nobody's going to see it your way, at least initially.

    I haven't taken a commercial flight since I retired. Before I retired I flew armed, and walked around the silly TSA screeners. I've got a Harley and a Duramax Diesel Z71 that will get me anywhere I want to go.

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    Can you imagine if these clowns were armed? This is what you get when you put a badge and uniform on a person who would otherwise be flipping hamburgers. These TSA slugs can violate our 4th amendment rights for any reason and are accountable to no one. Yet people put up with this harassment because they believe they are "safer". Just like taking guns away from law-abiding citizens will make us all "safer".

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    so lets say you dont do anything could you call the police on TSA? This is what has me wondering
    If police merely did their job and enforced existing laws by arresting TSA agents who molest Americans,
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    This part is what had me curious.

    “If it is skin to skin, if someone were to take their hand and put it underneath somebody’s blouse and touch someone inappropriately and go skin to skin, that’s a felony, and if it’s done simply over the clothing, according to California law, that’s a misdemeanor,” said Wagstaffe.

    If police merely did their job and enforced existing laws by arresting TSA agents who molest Americans, whether that be in airports, at train stations, highways, bus terminals, prom nights or wherever else TSA workers are used, then there would be no need for new legislation.
    All of the TSA agents I've seen wear gloves, so there would never be skin to skin contact, no matter what they did.
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    Wow can we say "Let's stage something and then film it and maybe we can sue someone and get some money for something". Unless I missed something I did not see any contact at all unless of course the person filming did not film that part hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Gotta love the woman's comment "I need a police officer, I think she molested me" If she does not know if she is getting molested or not she is dumber than she looks.

    This has got to be one of the most stupidly put together stunts I have ever seen. I have absolutely no pity for these money hungry, attention grabbing people.
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    This isn't rocket science here. Texas law is quite clear.
    Texas Statutes - Section 22.01: ASSAULT
    (a) A person commits an offense if the person:

    (3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
    later
    (c) An offense under Subsection (a)(2) or (3) is a Class C misdemeanor, except that the offense is:
    By purchasing a ticket to fly on a commerical airline you are giving consent to be searched by TSA. If you don't consent, you don't fly. It is that simple. So since you are paying to be patted down (that 9/11 security fee you paid when you bought your ticket) TSA should not reasonably believe you will regard it as offensive.

    Now later in the statute we have,
    (b) An offense under Subsection (a)(1) is a Class A misdemeanor, except that the offense is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed against:

    (1) a person the actor knows is a public servant while the public servant is lawfully discharging an official duty, or in retaliation or on account of an exercise of official power or performance of an official duty as a public servant;
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    (d) For purposes of Subsection (b), the actor is presumed to have known the person assaulted was a public servant, a security officer, or emergency services personnel if the person was wearing a distinctive uniform or badge indicating the person's employment as a public servant or status as a security officer or emergency services personnel.
    So even if it were not consensual contact the worst the TSA agent is committing is a class "C" misdemeanor. You on the other hand would be committing a felony if you went hands on with them.
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    I have to agree I think this family is a bunch of trouble makers looking to win a civil rights suit. I bet they have already contacted a ACLU lawyer. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just walk through the body scanner and get on with your flight?
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    I fully agree with just going through body scanner its quick and easy and no one has to put their hands on you.
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    I was retired in 2003 because of a disability and I had to fly to the to the NW as my Mom was losing her battle with Cancer. going from the SW was no problem but on the return trip the TSA held my for 45mins triple checking my boots and my cane and was giving me the third about the wire in my chest holding me togather. I had a federal ID, a valid Az drivers lic. and papers from the doctor explaining the metal in my chest. I was escorted to the gate and was greatful I was on my way home, I have not been on a plane since
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