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    I'm embarrassed to say tonight I was in condition white when the doorbell rang. At 7:51PM during a raging wind storm in February with 6 inches of snow still covering the ground a pretty young lady rang my bell and asked me if I wanted a free estimate for weed control on my yard. I quickly said no and closed the door but my SA screamed where is your gun? I went upstairs, unlocked my Glock and strapped it IWB. Dumb, dumb , dumb. 20 years ago, she was probably asking to spray my lawn but in Buffalo, in February, during a storm at nearly 8PM on a Monday night in Buffalo? Really? Usually I come home from school and at least shove my LCP with the DeSantis holster in my back pocket. Tonight could have ended badly because I got lax. No more. Had I been carrying, I would have gotten her card, checked things out and reported to the police that at the very least, she likely didn't have a permit to solicit in the town I reside in. I'm not against drumming up business but this was weird and in the 8 years I've lived hear, unheard of. Am I being paranoid or unrational? I'll let you decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violinjim View Post
    I'm embarrassed to say tonight I was in condition white when the doorbell rang. At 7:51PM during a raging wind storm in February with 6 inches of snow still covering the ground a pretty young lady rang my bell and asked me if I wanted a free estimate for weed control on my yard. I quickly said no and closed the door but my SA screamed where is your gun? I went upstairs, unlocked my Glock and strapped it IWB. Dumb, dumb , dumb. 20 years ago, she was probably asking to spray my lawn but in Buffalo, in February, during a storm at nearly 8PM on a Monday night in Buffalo? Really? Usually I come home from school and at least shove my LCP with the DeSantis holster in my back pocket. Tonight could have ended badly because I got lax. No more. Had I been carrying, I would have gotten her card, checked things out and reported to the police that at the very least, she likely didn't have a permit to solicit in the town I reside in. I'm not against drumming up business but this was weird and in the 8 years I've lived hear, unheard of. Am I being paranoid or unrational? I'll let you decide.

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    You are fine. Paranoid people don't keep their Glock locked up upstairs.
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    I think your SA was good ... how pretty was she? lol
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    ...lotsa fellers have been caught with that bait...glad you weren't...might have been legit but door-knockers are a scam-a-minute bunch these days...glad you learned a cheap lesson...I'd say you're right on in your hindsight...thanks for the reminders...

    Quote Originally Posted by violinjim View Post
    I'm embarrassed to say tonight I was in condition white when the doorbell rang. At 7:51PM during a raging wind storm in February with 6 inches of snow still covering the ground a pretty young lady rang my bell and asked me if I wanted a free estimate for weed control on my yard. I quickly said no and closed the door but my SA screamed where is your gun? I went upstairs, unlocked my Glock and strapped it IWB. Dumb, dumb , dumb. 20 years ago, she was probably asking to spray my lawn but in Buffalo, in February, during a storm at nearly 8PM on a Monday night in Buffalo? Really? Usually I come home from school and at least shove my LCP with the DeSantis holster in my back pocket. Tonight could have ended badly because I got lax. No more. Had I been carrying, I would have gotten her card, checked things out and reported to the police that at the very least, she likely didn't have a permit to solicit in the town I reside in. I'm not against drumming up business but this was weird and in the 8 years I've lived hear, unheard of. Am I being paranoid or unrational? I'll let you decide.

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    Yup, I'd wager that many of us have been caught with our.....SA down, when a pretty young lady is involved. Sounds plenty odd to me so I think any paranoia that might have been aroused would not be inappropriate.

    Thanks for the reminder, stay safe and go easy on them Ysaye Preludes. Spend too much time with those mind-bending fingerings and you won't just forget your gun, you'll forget your own name and start babbling in Walloon.

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    February, snow on the ground and selling weed control I would be quite suspicious.
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    Well I kinda hate to say it but anytime a pretty young girl approaches me about anything I tend to get suspicious. Of course Im 54, look like big foot with no front teeth and normally in biker leather since thats the way i get around. NOT the sort of looking fellow that pretty young girls tend to approach willingly. But they are probably safer around me than their burr haircut boyfriends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by violinjim View Post
    I'm embarrassed to say tonight I was in condition white when the doorbell rang. At 7:51PM during a raging wind storm in February with 6 inches of snow still covering the ground a pretty young lady rang my bell and asked me if I wanted a free estimate for weed control on my yard. I quickly said no and closed the door but my SA screamed where is your gun? I went upstairs, unlocked my Glock and strapped it IWB. Dumb, dumb , dumb. 20 years ago, she was probably asking to spray my lawn but in Buffalo, in February, during a storm at nearly 8PM on a Monday night in Buffalo? Really? Usually I come home from school and at least shove my LCP with the DeSantis holster in my back pocket. Tonight could have ended badly because I got lax. No more. Had I been carrying, I would have gotten her card, checked things out and reported to the police that at the very least, she likely didn't have a permit to solicit in the town I reside in. I'm not against drumming up business but this was weird and in the 8 years I've lived hear, unheard of. Am I being paranoid or unrational? I'll let you decide.

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    Back in the 1980's, I had a job working for a lawn service. They did send us out to knock doors WAY before it was the appropriate season to do so. I think this was (a) to see if we were committed to our jobs and (b) to make us REALLY appreciate the leads that were eventually handed to us when the actual season did finally arrive.

    I know that to persons not involved in that industry, it seems just bizarre, but there are some business owners that do require this of their sales staff.

    I am glad that I'm no longer doing that.
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    I put my gun on when I get dressed in the morning and take it off when I go to bed..
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    "but in Buffalo, in February, during a storm at nearly 8PM on a Monday night in Buffalo?"

    Yeah, your BG radar was definitely down on that one. Here in S. FL the latest scheme is a young, "battered" lady at the door asking to use the phone and then a few minutes later the AK-armed and hooded thugs burst in. For me it was the offer of "alarm service" installation, with the alarm permit clearly on the door. I think the hand in the pocket of my 6906 may have detered that one.

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    Sometimes we all get lazy or just forget about it. This lesson made you more aware. I simply keep one on my person 24/7. Nothing to remember then.
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    Sounds like she was just checking to see if anyone was actually home.
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    I think you misunderstood her. Based on the time of day and conditions she was more likely selling weed than weed control.

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