Wal Mart Shooting

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    Wal Mart Shooting

    Apparently this guy doesn't know about all the people who do "Wally Walks".

    Had you been there as soon as the incident happened (before the police arrived), what would you have done?

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    Gun saves a life? Say it aint so. I am very glad there were experienced officers on the scene.

    To answer the OP's question - That is a hard one. I do like that some of the people blocked him with carts and did just not walk away. Even as a civilian, If I did what the Police did, it probably would not have worked out as well legally for me.
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    Wow , A good man taking care of this i applaud the officer
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    If I had a clean shot and and he had a knife drawn on the little girl, I would have shot. Otherwise, I call 9-1-1 and am a good witness
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    Best call and report unless the victim is being hurt . If th eviction is being hurt you need to make the call as to what you will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Even as a civilian, If I did what the Police did, it probably would not have worked out as well legally for me.
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    If the police had not been on scene and he had started a 60 second countdown, I would have shot. I just hope it would have turned out as well.
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    To be honest, I'm not really sure what I would have done since a small child as a hostage would take up so much of the target area of the scumbag. I think my best bet would be to try and not escalate anything until help arrived.
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    "The only way you are going to make it out of this alive is to let the child go."

    Those are the words I was thinking as I saw the video and imagined myself at the scene before the police arrived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg View Post
    "The only way you are going to make it out of this alive is to let the child go."

    Those are the words I was thinking as I saw the video and imagined myself at the scene before the police arrived.
    Problem is he seemed nuttier than Chinese chicken salad. The threat of death sometimes doesn't deter the nutballs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad426 View Post
    Problem is he seemed nuttier than Chinese chicken salad. The threat of death sometimes doesn't deter the nutballs.
    I agree, but there's no way he was going to walk out of there with a child in his arms. Either he would be shot dead by me or the police would get there and take over. Whether he's nutty or not doesn't matter to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg View Post
    I agree, but there's no way he was going to walk out of there with a child in his arms. Either he would be shot dead by me or the police would get there and take over. Whether he's nutty or not doesn't matter to me.
    But he wasn't trying to walk out. Playing this out when I saw the video there is something very disconcerting about drawing my weapon on a loony bird with a knife to a kid's throat. In the movies the bad guys are sane and scared of the weapon and give you time to say something pithy as you aim at their head.
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    My wife, daughter and Granddaughter all know their code words that if in a situation like this will do no matter what. They will become dead weight and let their legs go limp and drop down as they know that where they were is where I will be shooting in the next second. Yes, in a case like this where the innocent is very young and held by one hand off the ground and a knife in the other, it is a tough call. The officer did good for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mprp View Post
    To be honest, I'm not really sure what I would have done since a small child as a hostage would take up so much of the target area of the scumbag. I think my best bet would be to try and not escalate anything until help arrived.
    I agree on containment if there is not immimant harm or death. Let the Police do what they do best, IF you can contain it for enough time for them to arrive. This is not a self defense issue (as presented) so much as to stop the harm to another. Self defense is easy, and hard, but more clear to me legally. Now, if the little girl had been cut/bleeding, most state statutes allow you to clearly act to stop further harm.

    This is a good one. Thanks to the OP, Brad426 for posting.
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