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If as reported, that's pretty simple. Have a violent felon approach with a deadly weapon, erase the threat lawfully.Originally Posted by From the article
Unless they've got some proof he couldn't possibly have been engaging in self-defense, they're right to not press charges for what didn't occur, simply because he's the one left standing. Irrespective of the employer / soon-to-be former employee relationship.
Gut shot... ouch.
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I'm gonna guess most of the time,the one with the knife loses.The employee must have been really mad,to go after him,and,the employer had a gun,wow.
I am curious about something.I wonder,did he have the gun on him,or,outside in vehicle?.What i'm getting at,he was an employer Longbeards Bar and Grill.I didn't think you could have a gun in a bar.Maybe,he is the owner,and can?I can't get my permit yet,but,don't hurt,to learn ccp laws early.
SECTION 16-23-465. Additional penalty for unlawfully carrying pistol or firearm onto premises of business selling alcoholic liquors, beers or wines for on-premises consumption.
In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16-11-330 and 16-23-460 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person convicted of carrying a pistol or firearm into a business which sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
In addition to the penalties described above, a person who violates this section while carrying a concealable weapon pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23, must have his concealed weapon permit revoked.
HISTORY: 1977 Act No. 45; 1993 Act No. 184, Section 190; 1996 Act No. 464, Section 5; 2002 Act No. 274, Section 2, eff May 28, 2002.
Obviously, this employee did not know the 'rule' about bringing a knife to a gunfight.
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Not a smart career move even in a dead-end job.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
Was the weapon drawn as the warning was issued?...or; did the employer issue the warning; wait for the approaching threat and then draw & fire?"... the employer did warn the employee to not come any closer to him with the knife.
This could change the dynamics somewhat.
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I don't know about S.C. but in PA the owner of an establishment may have a gun for protection the same as for home protection, no permit is necessary in that instance. The fact that the shot was fired outside the establishment would indicate he had better have a CC license, and I suspect he did.
If no charges filed against the employee does he get workmans comp?
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Knife vs gun usually doesn't work well,smh.I'm guessing the employer is allowed to have a gun,or,i would think they could Brent.No,we can't have on in a bar.
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