Man beating another man who is blind, what do you do?

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    Man beating another man who is blind, what do you do?

    Here is the FOX News story:
    Philadelphia police ID suspect in brutal beating of blind man | Fox News

    As a scenario question: In looking at this news story on FOX, it is sickening to know that NOBODY did anything to stop the violence or help the blind man who was knocked down, punched and kicked. Let's say you are armed with your concealed weapon, and actually try to get the bad guy off the blind man by pulling or pushing or holding. Would you have acted?

    My concern being, although you have a CCW, but have not drawn, you are getting involved in a violent situation. And if the bad guy turned on you and you did fear for your safety, ultimately, you engaged in the conflict. I know having a CCW, means MYOB, but with violence like this on a somewhat disabled person, I would feel I need to get involved....

    What are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyofMike View Post
    Here is the FOX News story:
    Philadelphia police ID suspect in brutal beating of blind man | Fox News

    As a scenario question: In looking at this news story on FOX, it is sickening to know that NOBODY did anything to stop the violence or help the blind man who was knocked down, punched and kicked. Let's say you are armed with your concealed weapon, and actually try to get the bad guy off the blind man by pulling or pushing or holding. Would you have acted?

    My concern being, although you have a CCW, but have not drawn, you are getting involved in a violent situation. And if the bad guy turned on you and you did fear for your safety, ultimately, you engaged in the conflict. I know having a CCW, means MYOB, but with violence like this on a somewhat disabled person, I would feel I need to get involved....

    What are your thoughts?
    In my state I can defend a 3rd parties life. In this situation, if he turned on me, I would shoot him in the face....
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    Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned I live in California....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyofMike View Post
    Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned I live in California....
    We have to understand that some of these situations will have different outcomes based on state laws. IMO even being in Cali I would still have to respond some how.
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    There's a lot of ways to intervene without opening fire. I would also be more inclined to intervene if I was sure the victim was blind. But I also know how much Kalifornians like to protect their criminals. Tough to say what the best course of action is.

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    I would call 911 and be a good witness. It's hard to know what was happening from the surveillance video, except that one person was kicking another. Unless I knew for a fact that the man was blind and that he was just a victim on an unprovoked attack, I would not get directly involved. The law may allow the defense of a third party, but there is no duty to act. Of course, if the attack was against me or a loved one, game on!
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    Call 911 and take photos with your cell phone. If he turns on you for that, then you might have to shoot him.
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    i would hurry up and pull out my cell phone record and post on youtube as quick as possible lol. all joking asside, i would help the guy wouldnt just walk by like it was the norm
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    Riddle me this: The "Blind Man" is a criminal, faking blindness and the guy beating him is an UC cop making an, albeit violent, arrest. Whaddaya do NOW? Did you witness the event start to finish? Do you know this is not the case...?
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    Or the "Blind Man" just pulled a gun on "Attacker" and you are watching the remainder of the event after the initial confrontation?

    I'd prefer to know the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyofMike View Post
    Yeah, I guess I should have mentioned I live in California....
    Well, in that case, you should have quietly sat down and waited your turn to be beaten.
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    If a blind guy pulls a gun on you, could you just move over a little bit . I would help someone that was disabled i could only do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may .
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    Quote Originally Posted by welder516 View Post
    If a blind guy pulls a gun on you, could you just move over a little bit . I would help someone that was disabled i could only do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may .
    Or learn to throw your voice,, If I seen it from the start & blind guy was in real dire need,
    I'd open a can of whoop arse ; ) Just sayin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    In my state I can defend a 3rd parties life. In this situation, if he turned on me, I would shoot him in the face....
    Same here.
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    Disabled or not , A guy is laying defenciveless and taking a stomping I know what Id do! He is just one kick away from being killed! DR

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