Did not have to draw my firearm

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    Did not have to draw my firearm

    Several years ago on a cold winter evening my wife and I decided to go for a walk. We live in a small city in upstate New York which is mostly a bedroom community. While walking we came to an intersection where we found the sidewalk very icy so we stopped for a moment and were laughing about our situation.

    A car then pulls up partly on the sidewalk and stopped about fifteen feet away. The driver said something which I couldn't hear but I sensed something wrong as my wife clutched my arm. Then he said "Drop your wallet and keep on walking!" I placed my hand on the grip of my Model 19 S & W which I kept under my coat, having the gun ready but out of sight. The driver then repeated his demand and added "He has a girl with him!", meaning my wife.

    At this time I noticed the cars interior light come on as both front doors began to open. Keeping my right hand on the S & W, I crouched on one knee and said "Don't come any closer, leave us alone". The passenger said "He, (meaning myself), may have a gun. let's go". And they drove off. The police responded in a moment as it was called in by a passer by. I was told that these drive by robberies were not uncommon.

    A few days later one of our city judges told me that he read the police report and I did everything by the book. He told me that based on what he heard if it had progressed any further deadly force would have been justified. Moral of the story is that my years of training and keeping my cool paid off.

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    Welcome to the forum and well played.
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    Good outcome. Seems you made the best out of a possibly bad situation. Nicely done.
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    Welcome to the forum! I'm glad you and your wife were not only okay, but that you also didn't have to possibly take a life that night.
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    Good thing you do not reside in the Peoples Republik of Bloomberg part of NY.
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    Welcome from Colorado! Well done


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    Glad to see it worked out well. Well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAR View Post
    Did not have to draw my firearm

    Then he said "Drop your wallet and keep on walking!"

    A few days later one of our city judges told me that he read the police report and I did everything by the book. He told me that based on what he heard if it had progressed any further deadly force would have been justified. Moral of the story is that my years of training and keeping my cool paid off.
    Clear robbery situation, possibly strong-arm but very likely armed robbery. In most states, nobody's legally required to just suck it up and comply, requiring that it progress further. And in many states, drawing is not the equivalent of firing. But then, you were in NY.

    Sounds like you did everything right. By your body language, statement and eyes, you showed you weren't going to allow it to happen. They didn't see the weapon, but they knew they were in for a bad time if they didn't leave. Kudos, for making it home safe. I'd have had my hand on the gun as well, if not have already drawn it at the moment of the attempted robbery. But thankfully I live in a place where that sort of thing (robbery) just isn't tolerated well, by either the citizens or the constabulary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRA1945 View Post
    be careful with this... there are those on here who would've told you to use pepper spray or "equal force" instead (whatever that is).


    "Equal force" to a robbery with implied threat of "or else" hanging in the wind. Hard to ignore the "or else" in any robbery.

    There are some who'd see a robbery as something less. Thankfully, I'm not one of them, and I live in a state full of such folks.

    Robbery is what it is. In the OP's case, he obviously was prepared in advance, prepared to use whatever force he deemed necessary to survive what manifestly was coming, and he got lucky when the BG's backed out. The clear means and threat of force the BG's didn't want turned the tide, there, I'd say.
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    Yep--good job.

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    Welcome from Alaska, Done good.

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    Welcome, I'm glad everything worked out.

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