drunk people....How do you handle them?

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    drunk people....How do you handle them?

    i've witnessed drunk people threatening others and even started fights using their fists/feet and weapons such sticks/rocks/whatever they can find. Can I potentially get lock up for injuring/killing a drunk person because he/she tried attacking me esp. with a weapon?

    Personally, i think being drunk is not a valid excuse to harm others and the drunk person should receive no special treatment.

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    Were you able to leave the area and alert authorities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI View Post
    Were you able to leave the area and alert authorities?
    Someone already did the calling. i'm picturing if I got caught in it by accident such as walking into a park and ran into a violent drunktard.
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    This really is a good topic however I would say give them no special treatment. Because someone is drunk doesn't give them the right to attack anyone, let alone with weapons. Just my opinion, let's see what others opinions are.
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    If a drunk person or a person on drugs is coming at you with a weapon and going to inflict bodily injury on you , you may need to stop the threat . But at the very second you see the person acting this way you need to remove yourself from the area and call police .

    Drinking or Drugs gives no-one an excuse for committing assults .
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    Quote Originally Posted by welder516 View Post
    If a drunk person or a person on drugs is coming at you with a weapon and going to inflict bodily injury on you , you may need to stop the threat . But at the very second you see the person acting this way you need to remove yourself from the area and call police .

    Drinking or Drugs gives no-one an excuse for committing assults .
    Yes, this. The alcohol is no excuse, if you legitimately feel you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm then you are legally justified to defend yourself. But as welder516 says, you should immediately remove yourself from the area if you see that a person is acting belligerent.
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    The best way to handle this kind is to avoid being around them or places they frequent. Remember, the firearm is a tool of last resort, and that implies that you have other tools in your personal defense arsenal, and you must use these first. Avoid, evade, and if you can't, deescalate, retreat.
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    I avoid them Drunks and Stoners are something I have no time for. If they are in my path and chose not to move out of the way they will pay a high price for their high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty901 View Post
    I avoid them Drunks and Stoners are something I have no time for. If they are in my path and chose not to move out of the way they will pay a high price for their high.
    While I agree with you in principal, your comment sounds aggressive. I don't think you can put a rational decision on someone in that condition.
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    There comes a time in most of our lives, when we decide that the places where drunks hang out are not the best places for us to be. +1 for avoiding them in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormRhydr View Post
    There comes a time in most of our lives, when we decide that the places where drunks hang out are not the best places for us to be. +1 for avoiding them in the first place.
    ^^The problem with these drunken/high buffoons^^^^^^

    is that they sometimes inhabit the house next door.
    Or they like walking around the mall where your family is.
    Or Disneyland, the beach, the movies, work, church(yes even church), the local family restaurant.
    They could be anywhere.

    Get out of the immediate area.
    Alert police of the situation, stand by and be a good witness.
    Personally, if they were harassing a mother with kids, old people or little kids, I would be hard pressed to not step in if things got really out of control.
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    The "S" rule applies here but if caught in a situation where there is a violent threat before me/you the same reaction would apply drunk or not. I react to the threat not the person. I stop the threat by stopping the person, be it a drunk, old, young, man, woman or child. Be able to stop the threat and don't look at the person who is the threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02R1 View Post
    i've witnessed drunk people threatening others and even started fights using their fists/feet and weapons such sticks/rocks/whatever they can find. Can I potentially get lock up for injuring/killing a drunk person because he/she tried attacking me esp. with a weapon?
    Potentially, absolutely. Same as at any other time, simply because you're the one left standing. All it takes is an "enterprising" DA with a lack of conscience and appreciation for the reality of street warfare when it does occur. Can be stickier still, with the unarmed, incompetent, or anyone else otherwise presumably lacking his faculties at the time. Doesn't affect the dire threat one can pose, in the least. Some of the most-dangerous sorts are in fact those who've temporarily "lost" their faculties, precisely because they have lost them. Toss in a weapon, and it's just as deadly as anything else.

    And so, know your state statutes cold; know what you're prepared to do or not do; be capable and effective, as much as you're able; be circumspect; but, always be ready to defend yourself if it becomes necessary to do so, as you'll likely not get an engraved invitation or warning of weaponry or risk.

    Personally, I don't think "drunks" should get any special dispensation, either. But not all DA's think that way, thinking somehow such people who are "suffering" from a disease can't possibly be as threatening as others. A fallacy, of course, but it exists. The threat is very real, almost worse with the greater unpredictability of such "afflicted" people like those under the influence of something. To my way of thinking, though, the practical deadliness of being influenced by drink, drug, power trip, LSD trip or an over-inflated sense of need isn't readily distinguishable. And the statues clearly don't distinguish in such ways, with the 'reasonable man' standard being the same regarding threat without respect to what motivated the deadly assailant to be that way.
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    I try to avoid drunks.
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    Don't ask me how I know this:), but if you are attacked by a drunk, ith no weapons involved, don't count on them feeling any pain, at least right away.
    But what does work, and I'm not advocating this if you haven't been trained, is a chop to the throat, with only enough force to temporarily collapse their windpipe. Not being able to suck air for a few seconds really, really takes the " wind" out of their sails and allows you a chance to walk away.
    On e again, don't do this unless you have been properly taught.
    Yeah, in my younger days I learned a few things, by being in all the wrong places at the right time.
    Don't get in to gun fights with a drunk; if they are a really good shot, they will hit both of you :)
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