Would you have gone Orange?
This is a discussion on Would you have gone Orange? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by me
First off I am 21 years old, I know i dont know everything
Well, you're ahead of the game there. A ...
January 7th, 2007 09:52 PM
Well, you're ahead of the game there. A lot of 21 year olds think they already know everything (I know, I used to be one of 'em ).
Originally Posted by me
It sounds to me like you did the right thing, condition orange was certainly appropriate for the circumstances. As has already come up, a flashlight would have been helpful in this situation. I carry one all the time and I probably use it more often than anything else I carry. You didn't describe the surrounding circumstances very much, but if possible I might have crossed the street rather than approaching and walking right by the parked car without knowing what the occupant was doing (of course that depends on how busy the street was and whether there was a sidewalk on the other side).
Originally Posted by me
I think you handled the situation quite well.
January 7th, 2007 10:11 PM
I think you handled it just right.
If you do not already have one, I would suggest you get a small but very bright tactical flashlight to carry with you at all times. A Surefire or like the one I carry a Tactorch 2 model from Coast Cutlery.
Well done and welcome to the board.
January 7th, 2007 10:37 PM
You took the right action. With it being night and no other people around it pays to be on alert. Just as long as you didn't pull the gun out and aim it at any one is ok Just to have your hand on the gun is to be expected. The driver was rude. It could have been the real thing. Glad you are both safe.
January 7th, 2007 10:52 PM
Bright orange! You handled it well.
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January 7th, 2007 11:17 PM
This Seems About Right...
My hand on my weapon...that's all...
Originally Posted by SIXTO
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January 7th, 2007 11:18 PM
The good guys operate under the law. If they don't like it they change it, but that is another story. Each state has its own statute covering legal justification in the event that deadly physical force is used. If you don't know it, you should. Generally the acronym
"Dr Barks" covers it. That is, deadly physical force is "justified" to "prevent or terminate" a deadly threat to you or someone else in the context of (D=defense, r=Rape, B=Burglary-generally in home, a=arson, r=robbery, k=kidnap, and, s=forcible sodomy, hence, Dr Barks. Note the prevent or terminate aspect, so chasing the perp down the driveway as the jerk is retreating is a problem if you hunt him down and execute him. No justification is murder and has criminal and civil ramifications you don't want to deal with. it is noytt about the lawyers and judges it is about the law of the land and hyour failure to understand and live up to it. Best advice, keep your weapon in your pocket for all but the most obvious defense situations.
January 7th, 2007 11:21 PM
I think that if a person did as suggested above, the cops and/or D.A. could have a field day with him, if they so chose.
Originally Posted by AirForceShooter
I think the original poster was on the mark with going orange and getting a grip on his CCW, but drawing and aiming? NO. I don't think that was yet warranted.
January 7th, 2007 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by cagueits
That's a very good point. If there is cause to believe there is danger in the car, enough to go "orange," and you still don't know who or what lurks in the car, the congruent thing to do (based on those conditions) is to stay away from the car; not to approach it and sidle by, keeping a suspicious eye on it.
Sort of like firing warning shots: if you needed the gun at all, you needed it to fire at your attacker, not fire warning shots. And here, if you needed to go to condition orange, you needed to be distancing yourself from what you perceived as a danger.
And as far as the flashlight is concerned, I think everyone should always have a flashlight on them, even in daylight, even in "well lit" areas at night. Even on a "well lit" street, let's say you drop something and it rolls off the sidewalk into the grass or the street, the most "well lit" sidewalk is not bright enough to help you find what you dropped. You'll still need a flashlight. As light and small as some good LED flashlights are these days, there is no excuse to not have one on you at all times.
January 7th, 2007 11:51 PM
You responded well. You were in the situation so you know the details that just can't be spelled out over the internet.
However, just going on what I read, my weapon would have been in hand and at the ready. Not necessarily aimed or pointed in the other vehicles direction, but certainly out of the leather and in a low ready. My wife and I would have been going backwards to open up as much ground as physically possible. I would have never passed the car. I would have immediately left. No hanging around. Leave that for another time.
January 8th, 2007 09:21 AM
Consider the totality of events. You're in a deserted place with a woman. A car approaches at high speed and suddenly jams on it's brakes in close to your location.
Originally Posted by P95Carry
Excessive? In my opinion if you're not at red and don't have your weapon at least drawn and ready, you're looking at a major problem.
Yeah, I'm looking down my sights.
Just my .02
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January 8th, 2007 09:33 AM
Sounds perfectly fine. You were alert, prepared to draw if need be, and protecting the people with you. Doesn't appear that you overreacted. Good job.
January 8th, 2007 09:52 AM
I would have gone to high orange. It is refreshing to see a 21 year old 'fess up to not knowing everything. Well done on both counts.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf. - George Orwell
January 8th, 2007 03:25 PM
If I were in town or just outside of town, gun out and ready(especially with whats been going on lately). Out in the boonies like now.. just hand on gun.
Last edited by Smooth23; January 8th, 2007 at 06:13 PM.
January 8th, 2007 03:42 PM
I think you did fine. Pulling the weapon may have been jumping the gun, no punn intented. But you need to tell us the real reason why you were at the over look. Some of us were young once too, and you don't take a young lady to really see the lights, now do you? LOL!!
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January 8th, 2007 03:54 PM
Sounds like you did exactly what I would have done given the circumstances described. No reason to draw or even show your gun at this point but my hand would have definitely been on it ready to draw. Glad nothing bad happened.
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