Strange walk home tonight
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I tend to be ...
January 10th, 2007 02:23 AM
Strange walk home tonight
Well, this isn't actually a CCW scenario for reasons I will go into below, if it needs moved, mods feel free.
I tend to be a bit of a night owl because of my job working at bars and late night studying, and while in college I have developed a habit of going to the gym late at night (after 11 or so), because it tends to be less crowded, and I just prefer it. The gym is on campus (so carry of weapons there is prohibited) and is about 3/4 of a mile or mile from my house, good for a warm up run or cool down walk.
Anyway, I was walking home and about 3 blocks from my house when all the sudden I heard yelled in a slurred voice "Hey can I bum a cigarette?" Voice sounded drunk, and I don't smoke, so I decided that the best course of action was to keep walking towards my house. At this point the guy who is about 50 yards away (hiding in the shadows between two houses, and not immediately obvious) starts walking towards me and asking if I am "deaf and dumb." Obviously he didn't see me turn to identify him as soon as he yelled his origional query. At this point the contents in my pockets are, housekeys, my flashlight, cell phone, and wallet. So I put my flashlight in my strong side hand, and continued to walk.
He followed me for about two blocks, screaming all sorts of derogatory comments. I wound up traveling about 6 blocks, because as soon as I could tell he was following me, I hurried up some and decided not to go directly home. I had just finished 30 minutes on a treadmill, so all out running was out, but at the speed I was going he was pretty much just keeping up at about 45-50 yards, not gaining. And then I kept walking some to make sure that my 6 was clear before coming home.
Now I am not a small boy by any means at 5'11 and 235 with about 19-20% body fat, and I make extra cash here as a bouncer and have some martial arts skills, so I can hold my own. But having a brawl with a drunk at 1 in the morning when its cold out ain't my idea of fun.
Sorry for the long post, but I'm kinda amped up right now. Yeah I know, don't go out at night. But aside from that, any other critiques on my actions? I didn't think it was worth callin the cops over. Assuming that y'all couldn't of been armed (I know a strech of the imagination here, but I was on campus and the law is the law.) would of you handled it any differently?
January 10th, 2007 02:23 AM
January 10th, 2007 02:27 AM
I might have been tempted to have a bit of fun with him, I hate drunks.
But, you got home safe, so I guess you did just fine.
January 10th, 2007 02:34 AM
January 10th, 2007 02:41 AM
We had a movement last year on campus that something like 25% of the students supported trying to get the state legislature to allow CCW on campus. Living off campus is great, but I only bring a few firearms with me to school, the rest stay at the parents house due to high burglary rates around the campus (as well as fairly high rates for other types of crime). I do feel pretty naked all day in class and at work without a couple of pounds of metal on my hip, but its on as much as possible otherwise. The expect that the police will protect us in a dangerous situation at best, or pretend that they can't happen at worst. I'm not even sure what the law says about having a pocket knife on campus, when we were in the dorms it had to be under a 3" blade, but it is not uncommon at all to see a folder clipped to someones pocket in class.
January 10th, 2007 06:11 AM
Done good. The wisest thing you did is not go straight home so as to ID your house. You had size, skills and sobriety as the advantages so escape and avoid without seeking refuge kept from you getting possible drunken retaliation on your home.
my State's CCW regs, while very liberal with very few restrictions, doesn't permit carry on school grounds, public or private, so school policy is moot. Unfortunately, I see no possible change in that. The only other restrictions are courthouses and under the influence.
Avoid - the best policy.
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January 10th, 2007 06:31 AM
Sound like you did every right to me. You kept distance and you had a plan. I guess the only other thing you could have done was use your cell phone and called the police.
One of the thing that I did was set my cell phone to speed dial to our local police dispatch non-emergency number. I have used it several times to report drunk drivers. It works great.
January 10th, 2007 08:33 AM
sounds like you did fine.
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January 10th, 2007 09:02 AM
You could have confronted the drunk but you made a wise choice to ignore him. It was a wise choice not to go straight home. you probley should have called the police. His next student might be a female.
Last edited by Tom G; January 10th, 2007 at 09:12 AM.
January 10th, 2007 09:27 AM
This is exactly why the laws are so silly, giving the mere impression of security yet leaving such folks in such circumstances out in the cold, literally.
Good on ya, for getting home okay. It could easily have gone sideways; had he been armed, it could easily have gone badly indeed.
Question: Since your college denies you the ability to defend yourself, what concrete steps have they taken for the responsibility they've assumed for defending you personally? (None, of course.)
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the number of victims?
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January 10th, 2007 10:49 AM
January 10th, 2007 12:52 PM
It sounds like you handled it pretty well. "Deaf and dumb" worked out OK in this case, but another option would have been to reply with something along the lines of, "Sorry, I don't smoke," or "Sorry, I can't help you," to try to put him off.
Since you can't carry on campus, you might consider some other form of weapon (blade, baton, or OC depending on what university rules allow).
January 11th, 2007 06:22 AM
Some personal OC spray woulda helped.
January 11th, 2007 06:56 AM
I find just saying "nope got none on me", is a pretty good way to start out.
Just ignoring someone isn't the wisest choice to me. I think if you said "no" he would have left you alone.
January 11th, 2007 09:03 AM
Can't you carry a pocket knife on campus? I wouldn't be walking around at night with no weapon at all, especially with all the crimes we hear about lately on campuses across the country. I would have probably headed straight for my house where I had a way to protect myself. You can run around the block three times and they guy could shoot you in the back because you didn't want him to know where you live, not me, my first choice is to get to my gun. Glad it was only a drunk and nothing more serious.
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