Mall Shooting in NY

Mall Shooting in NY

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    Mall Shooting in NY

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../mall_shooting

    Variation on the When the balloon goes up thread. Lone gunman shoots up the Best Buy in the Mall. Unarmed citizens subdue him when he runs out of ammo.

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    Wow. That is crazy. Thanks for sharing Scott. The wife and I were discussing what ifs today, and this came up as I told her abotu the What if the Balloon goes up thread. Adds validity.

    Anyone think of another "fat fetched" scenario, please post it.

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    Thanks for posting the story.
    I hate to read doggone stories like that though.
    It eats away a bit more of my stomach lining every time I read about a total "nut case" with a gun.
    Kudos to the "Sporting Goods Workers" that took him down.
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    My response is completely different for this. in the "balloon" thread you are in a crowd encountering multiple opponents armed with assault rifles. Collateral damage is acceptable. In this situation it is not. Utilize cover and concealment and drop this guy ASAP. In this situation i'd render aid to the injured. In the other situation i'd fight my way out of the hot zone and escape.

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    As always happens this was initially reported as multiple shooters and at multiple locations. Basically the scenario in the balloon goes up thread. Only the people on the ground will know for sure. Hopefully this isn't a test run for terrorists or that it gives them any ideas.

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    Just Another nut ball on the loose.. No one armed huh?? opps for got its NY only the bad guys are armed

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    What I don't get with these mass shooting dudes is they apparently are unable to carry reloads for their firearms.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they don't seem to have a clue, but the amount of injury with an AK against unarmed targets says something about the American psycho-marksmanship quotient in this day and age.

    I'm reminded of the marksmanship lecture in "Full Metal Jacket" for some reason - glad the shooter wasn't a Marine. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott
    As always happens this was initially reported as multiple shooters and at multiple locations. Basically the scenario in the balloon goes up thread. Only the people on the ground will know for sure. Hopefully this isn't a test run for terrorists or that it gives them any ideas.

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    The terrorists don't need this to give them ideas. I read a novel about 6 months ago with a simolar idea. A small group of terrorists (I think it was 4) targeting an large mall in Northern Virginia. They just split up and started shooting........... Made for interesting reading. :sport21:

    Of course if they had been smart, they'd have done it in Maryland, where there is almost no chance of anyone shooting back!
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    we don't need to give them ideas. look at israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfurtkamp
    What I don't get with these mass shooting dudes is they apparently are unable to carry reloads for their firearms.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they don't seem to have a clue, but the amount of injury with an AK against unarmed targets says something about the American psycho-marksmanship quotient in this day and age.

    I'm reminded of the marksmanship lecture in "Full Metal Jacket" for some reason - glad the shooter wasn't a Marine. :)
    More good reasons to get professional training, so if the shooter is a whacked out marine, you still have a good chance. Not nececcarily a marine either, have you seen video of these al queda training camps? They look pretty hardcore.

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    Thumbs down Aq Hardcore? Not!

    Quote Originally Posted by clubsoda22
    Not nececcarily a marine either, have you seen video of these al queda training camps? They look pretty hardcore.
    Actually they look amateur as hell to me. Heck if that's the best they can offer in the arena of firearms and buildings or built up areas....my IDPA club can clean them up pretty quick. I've seen most of those so called training videos and they don't move well, or use cover and concealment. They have no fire discipline and nobody is covering while others are reloading. I actually think these videos are more for propaganda purposes to warn the infidels.....
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    That was the book by Tom Clancy? I really think it's going to happen pretty much in a similar fashion, when things pop for real.
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    That and/or recuiting films. They always remind me of the films the Soviets used to release to the west. We would be forced to watch them in OPFOR briefings. I always thought that if I had to watch another Soviet soldier dive through fire while shooting his AK I was going to puke.

    As to Clancy Books(not movies), "The Sum of All Fears", scared the heck outta me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
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    Variation on the When the balloon goes up thread. Lone gunman shoots up the Best Buy in the Mall. Unarmed citizens subdue him when he runs out of ammo.

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    Luckily he only had 7 rounds before reloading.
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    Very old news. Closed.
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