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For years, pro gun groups have been talking about how low the numbers are ...
February 2nd, 2007 07:47 AM
Yes I know it's a misnomer, but I got your attention.
For years, pro gun groups have been talking about how low the numbers are for the criminal use of "assault weapons." Has anyone else here noticed lately that AKs and "machine guns" are being mentioned frequently in the news?
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February 2nd, 2007 08:25 AM
Not only in the news but in those new reality tv shows featuring SWAT teams and assorted "oh-so-tactical" teams. The BG always have an AK and I have seen shows where they recover an SKS and call it an AK or initially say the BG is armed woth an AK and ends up that the BG had a lever action rifle. I am yet to see an AR, FAL or any other type of long gun. I am guessing producers think it is sexier (in a politically correct POV) to have a segment with an AK than any other weapon.
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February 2nd, 2007 08:48 AM
or the AK is what the public wants to see in the BG hands.
February 2nd, 2007 09:05 AM
It's all "perception" and ratings.
Why don't they just give factual news and leave the slanted editorializing BS out of it?
February 2nd, 2007 09:34 AM
Because these socialist sob-sisters are constitutionally incapable of not trying to rescue the poor, befuddled masses (their opinion, not mine), from our ignorance of the dangers that beset us.
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February 2nd, 2007 09:49 AM
They also have been calling them fully automatic when they are Semi.
Take it all as a hint/clue that worse is waiting on the "not too distant" horizon for law abiding gun owners.
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February 2nd, 2007 10:21 AM
Unfortunately, the "popular" press is majority of the firearms "educating" to the masses leading to the misnomers and ignorance. I recall getting into an argument with someone who kept insisting that those "AK-47 machineguns" and other "assault weapons" like M16's had no redeeming purpose since they were only meant to kill people. I replied that LE starting carrying M16 and AR variants so where they planning to summarily kill people? ....and that the AKs in question are mostly semi-auto ONLY variants of the AKM. I also explained what an assault rifle was.
Of course I was wrong 'cause they saw the NBC special on "assault weapons" years back. ....moan groan.
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February 2nd, 2007 11:11 AM
Yup - this is probably the "talk-up" leading into the new Congress "saving" us from these scary guns.
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February 3rd, 2007 07:28 PM
I have been trying to explain for years..... to the intellectualy challenged masses, assault weapon is a very broad term. If I used it in an offensive manner, a #2 pencil would qualify.
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February 3rd, 2007 08:10 PM
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That is part of it - helped/amplified of course in large part by media spin and hype. The anti's cannot grasp the concept of legal gun ownership that extends to something so militaristic.
the AK is what the public wants to see in the BG hands.
If it merits the label ''assault'' then it must be bad - for anyone to have. Oh and yeah - the constant assumption that these are full auto is ridiculous too ...... lack of research and so factual accuracy. Combine all these elements - throw in a dash of Hollywierd and there you are ---- the average non-educated and gun nieve folks suck it up as real.
Be a different matter if - long odds I admit - the country was under attack and had to rely on its large source of private firearms ownership - then the sheep would be bleating ''save me'' and just love these weapons.
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February 3rd, 2007 08:38 PM
The media is the last place to look for the truth. It all has to do with the rateings. The news is slanted to the likes of who ever owns the station.
February 3rd, 2007 10:47 PM
News isn't news anymore, if it ever was. The purpose of what they report is to get high viewer/reader numbers so they can get more advertising revenue. Also, I think the ‘AK’ label is just their idea of a ‘knowledgeable’ thing to say, even though they wouldn’t know an AK if their proctologist had to remove one.
February 12th, 2007 10:21 AM
aren't all weapons "assault weapons" if you use it to assault somebody?
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February 12th, 2007 10:30 AM
at the last place i worked was a guy asking me what he should pay for a ak47, wanting to know if the seller is asking to much. I'll ask him full or semi auto and he answers full auto of course. i ask him if he ever fired a full auto and he replied "of course". Me: are you sure? He: yea, it was cool... i didn't have to load the chamber after every shot, it did it fully automatically. Me: did it continue to fire if you keep holding the trigger back? He: No. Me: you are full of ****!
That was the last time i talked to this guy.
There seems to be alot of confusion about semi/full automatic out there.
Last edited by Team American; February 12th, 2007 at 10:35 AM.
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