Happened here yesterday: Case of mistaken identity
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1) secure my family and me.
2) try to get license number and car description if I ...
February 21st, 2007 05:14 PM
I would perform the following procedures in order:
1) secure my family and me.
2) try to get license number and car description if I can without increasing my danger.
3) Call 911.
4) Talk to police when they arrive.
5) Go home to change underwear.
6) Maybe come back later for some fries.
fortiter in re, suaviter in modo (resolutely in action, gently in manner).
February 21st, 2007 05:55 PM
We had a thread similar to this a few weeks back. It comes down to this:
In almost every state, it is illegal to shoot someone who is fleeing the scene. They are in a car. Even if they are rolling away and you draw and fire, technically the threat is "gone" and your legal right to return fire is null.
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February 21st, 2007 08:02 PM
Distance and Cover are my friend. Then a call to the CALVARY.
February 21st, 2007 08:38 PM
Well that probably won't be a problem. They only take 10 or 15 min's to get there.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
I would take cover and draw will being good witness. Re-holster once threat is over.
"May God have mercy on my enemies, because I won't."
General George Patton
February 21st, 2007 10:13 PM
I'm with the majority on this. Take cover, be a good witness, prepare in case of another go around and wait for the police. I'd much rather be a good witness compared to taking a shot in an area where innocent civilians could be hit.
February 26th, 2007 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by obxned
Yup! Remember, BGs don't care about rule #4, you have to. From the description, they were not shooting at you and were in the process of beating feet outta there quick so you had the chance to not shoot.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. "
John Stuart Mill
February 26th, 2007 09:16 PM
This happened to me once in a mall parking lot. It happened so fast I couldn't tell where the shots were coming from exactly, but as i walked toward the mall sidewalk the shots came from behind me (hince the actual parking lot or perimiter road) I dove behind a large planter with a tree in it, which was next to the sidewalk for cover. Car kept going, I still don't have any idea who it was and don't think they were shooting "at" me as there was no sound of bullets coming my direction and no impacts nearby. ( this made me think of a question. When rifle bullets go past real close, you sort of feel or hear them, would that occur with a handgun bullet at subsonic speed?) But I digress:
My point is, in a case like this, it happens so fast that unless they keep coming at you, you really probably don't have time to react. I didn't, except to take cover behind the nearest solid object. Had I been in the lot itself, I would dive behind the nearest auto. Draw my weapon, and see if the perp was fleeing or coming to play.
Last edited by sgtD; February 26th, 2007 at 09:22 PM.
When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.
February 28th, 2007 01:12 AM
No way that I would shoot, or even draw in that situation. You have far too great a chance of hitting a bystander. I would only draw if they stopped the car, and came after me on foot.
February 28th, 2007 09:54 AM
+1. That's about all you can do.
Originally Posted by lowflyer
February 28th, 2007 05:22 PM
. . . who will now want to see guns banned because of the close call she had.
Originally Posted by vanilla_gorilla
Watch for the mayor of that city and the police chief to recruit her as a poster-woman at their next proposed gun ban or gun "buyback."
Never mind that an argument can be made that if they had approached further, she might have needed a gun to defend herself.
February 28th, 2007 09:15 PM
It is over, look for bullet holes, and I bet because of the pucker factor and looking for cover you won't get a plate no. Me I might not even know what model of car either, just color. But in calm sits I do not know car models.
March 9th, 2007 12:18 PM
Hit the deck. I'll go for cover and ground to start with. If they aren't gone by the time I'm out of the open I'll think about returning fire.
Probably the best thing you can do is move. Its damned hard to shoot at stationary targets from a moving vehicle (from experiance at IDPA matches), never mind moving targets. The reverse is also true I suspect.
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