Car defense practice
This is a discussion on Car defense practice within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; any one consider or practice drawing from your driver seat to a threat outside your window. Say at a stop light or parking lot? For ...
March 27th, 2005 06:41 PM
Car defense practice
any one consider or practice drawing from your driver seat to a threat outside your window. Say at a stop light or parking lot? For me it is more difficult , as I am left handed. Best bet for me it seems is to switch to my right hand to aim and fire , unless the window is open.Also i consider using the door as a shield/ weapon instead of trying to draw.
March 27th, 2005 06:41 PM
March 27th, 2005 07:02 PM
have it ready
I posted a question a few days ago about intransit carry, when driving I prefer to have my weapon out, I rigged an old shoulder holster to attach to the edge my seat between my legs so that when I am stopped I can have my hand discreetly on it and pull it out, MUCH faster than I could draw it from the hip, I have tried drawing from the seated position and it is very slow, especially if a carjacker is already up on you, at the very least I would suggest taking the weapon out of the holster while driving and place it under your thigh for quick access.
March 27th, 2005 07:19 PM
At the night shoot for my club have run such a drill.
I use the vest that is worn daily...a RR 5.11 with a S&W 296 cross draw in the vest.
Yes, I have practiced the drill (live fire) from my car.
If you decide to try this....do it dry a bunch first, checking where the muzzle ends up when you dry fire.
For practice live, roll window down!!!!!!!!!!!
March 27th, 2005 08:29 PM
I have a 9 MM Derringer as a back up.
It works very well to just have in my coat pocket for example. I can have my hand on it and draw very fast. Good for anyone at my car window threatening me. It will buy me the time to get to my main carry gun.
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March 28th, 2005 12:43 AM
March 28th, 2005 07:29 PM
QK, why do you think I use a non mag 44Special????? ;)
March 28th, 2005 07:38 PM
Some things to consider:
Car doors and windows provide no ballistic protection. Unless you need to protect yourself from contact or impact weapons, the doors and windows are useless.
Contrary to the other poster that recommended extending the firearm outside to protect your ears in case of discharge, don't. "Here's my gun, Mr Bad Guy."
There have been documented attacks thwarted by the victim firing from the car. Bullets do go through glass, albeit at odd angles and they do lose mass. Be sure to practice those dedicated pairs if you want to be effective through laminated safety glass.
Your best protection around the car are the tires and the engine block. be sure to practice proper indexing off of cover and don't pop yourself up and over the hood or trunk lid. Your head looks just like a steel plate and skipped rounds off the lids will do some damage.
Some things you may want to practice is drawing from a seated position, escaping the car and drawing or low/urban kneeling positions to shoot under the car.
An interesting article: http://www.1adsi.com/article_lastoption.htm
March 29th, 2005 07:24 PM
Have to disagree with the above. Lots of car doors offer considerable protection from the average handgun round. Not my first choice, but far better than leaving the car IMO.
Good advice concerning the block and wheels....except that as said, you cannot expose self by shooting over trunk or hood. So you must shoot around the front or back, or under. All the time watching your six.
Stay in car, get car in motion, shoot thru side window if necessary.
Practice, practice, practice.
March 30th, 2005 06:15 AM
Has anyone ever considered a "car/truck gun only....with a silencer". Would definitely take care of the hearing damage issue. Leave that one for the vehicle and use your other gun for normal concealed carry outside the vehicle.
March 30th, 2005 09:05 AM
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There would hafta be one Hell of a Big, Mean Ol' Bad Guy out there before I ever discharge a large caliber firearm from inside a totally enclosed vehicle again.
I'll sure take my chances on that unlikely gun grab because if my defensive firearm is "out of the leather" and already presented...there is no possible way that it's ever getting taken from me. Just my humble opinion.
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March 30th, 2005 10:43 AM
I don't want to imagine what shooting a snubbie .357 from inside my vehicle would be like on my ears. I already have tinnitus. I'll shoot to save my life, but if there's an alternative, I'll use the Cold Steel Cullodeon mounted on the inside of my sun visor. I'll try to kebob an eyeball before I resort to shooting.
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March 30th, 2005 07:12 PM
Supressors require a $200 tax stamp. They are big. Even those for a semi auto will increase the length of the gun barrel by at least a factor of two.
A good reason to use a subsonic round ie the 44 Special.
March 30th, 2005 08:35 PM
Yeah, but it is a once only fee....besides, if I'm shooting from inside the vehicle, it is definitely a point and shoot situation. The GEMTECH suppressors I've seen at the gun shows look to be about 8 inches long...yeah a bit long, but since I'm right-handed and typically will have my left hand on the wheel or door (hanging over rolled down window) it makes a good rest for the shot! A shot to the right side (usually no passenger with me) there is plenty of room to spare.
Originally Posted by KC135
March 30th, 2005 11:09 PM
Not trying to hijack the thread, but how effective are silencers anyway?
Also does anyone have experience with owning one?
I would like one for plinking, but I am sure I don't want to go through all the hassle of getting it. Not to mention the reaction by any LEO's to it if I were ever stopped.
March 31st, 2005 01:55 AM
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Some tactics to consider when drawing and shooting in a vehicle.
If you carry strong side hip and are right handed you have a very good chance of getting your muzzle tied up in the steering wheel when you draw, if that happens and your trigger finger discipline is not the best, you will wind up capping yourself in the leg or foot. (Aren't we having fun now?)
Try this in your car-- When you draw bring your gun hand straight up towards the dashboard, press your wrist against the steering wheel and roll your arm over the wheel and out the window. That way you will avoid crossing yourself with the muzzle. It takes some practice but works very well.
From a horizontal shoulder holster always be sure to raise your off-side elbow to avoid crossing your arm with the muzzle.
When exiting the car and removing your seatbelt pass your left hand under the shoulder strap and disconnect the buckle then you won't get tangled in it when it releases.
Last edited by acparmed; March 31st, 2005 at 06:19 PM.
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