June 10th, 2007 02:20 PM
I usually car carry with a Bagmaster on its own fastex buckled flat webbing.
It is easy to rotate the bag on my body toward the left hip ... fast cross draw position.
Out of the car it is usually back to 2 oclock appendix or 3 o clock hip..
June 10th, 2007 07:58 PM
Which gun? The one is my belt or the one in the center console?
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June 10th, 2007 08:41 PM
I am not too familiar with all of the areas of KC. When I was growing up my dad lived in Independence, MO and my stepmom is from Raytown, so I spent a good amount of time in the area. Yesterday I drove to KC to watch the Royals (lose to the Phillies) and we ended up getting off to get gas and ended up in a situation about like this. It was somewhere over by the zoo and there was construction in the area and made it difficult to figure out where I 435 was. We got some odd looks and a couple of odd hand signs, but nothing that really caused any alarms to go of.
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June 11th, 2007 04:58 AM
Sounds like you were in the "Swope Park" area... At night, not a place I would want to be in if on foot. In a car, not too bad at all... Not a whole lot of people mess with people in moving cars there.
Still a car jacking in that area is not unheard of, so if you were armed... no problems.
Now, I haven't lived up in KC metro in 14 years and haven't worked ambulance in KC since 1986 and crime has gotten significantly worse since then.
I was up there a couple weeks ago and I took my wife over to the house I grew up in back in the 1960's (just to see what it looked like these days and what the old neighborhood looked like). (72nd & Cleveland if anyone knows the area).
Not far from Swope Park and about 7 or 8 blocks from the old Fairyland Park. We got a lot of looks from the locals for sure and probably not the smartest idea as we really had no business being in the area should an incident had happened. Still we were packing 3 guns.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
June 12th, 2007 10:31 PM
one bit of training tells me that I'm driving a large weapon and seeing you cannot engage a large crowd from your vehicle. I would use my vehicle either as a weapon or to get out of dodge. One thing I have always lived by is don't back yourself into a corner where you have to fight.
June 12th, 2007 11:01 PM
Agreed but only so long as you HAVE a suitable vehicle! See my thread in the off topics forum titled Another Route to Gun Control
Originally Posted by f8lranger4x4
Former Army Infantry Captain; 25 yrs as an NRA Certified Instructor; Avid practitioner of the martial art: KLIK-PAO.
June 13th, 2007 09:47 PM
Due to my job I do not carry into my customer sites. I do carry when I go to these sites. I am in a slow period but have been driving 800~1000 miles a week. With my drives I have leave early and sometimes don't get home until late. When I am driving for work my XD sits either in the passenger seat covered by a lowerback pillow or behind my seat in my computer bag. when it is in the bag I can reach behind the seat and "draw it" if needed.
When I am not working it is at 3:30 with my shirt tucked between the gun and my side. The seatbelt does not block the gun at all and it does not get uncomfortable.
June 13th, 2007 11:57 PM
I carry 3:30 but I put my gun in my console once I get inside my car and shut the door. My console is perfectly sized to fit my PT140. I'm planning on buying a truck by the end of the year so I figure I'd rig some kind of holster in it to put my gun in.
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June 14th, 2007 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by OfClanMcnab
If I was moving I wouldn't even care about the Gun. I have a truck that I can easily turn into a 1 ton Weaon with a push of the Gas peddle.
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June 20th, 2007 06:21 PM
Here's a great reason to have your gun accessible:
Police Release More Detail About Juneteenth Violence
By Jon Byman
Milwaukee Police say a 33-year-old man has a broken tooth and cuts all over his face after a group of teenagers pulled him from his car and beat him following Milwaukee's Juneteenth celebration.
It happened after the festival ended in the 3000 block of north 1st Street which is a short distance from the actual festival. Police say hundreds of teenagers started kicking the man's car. Today's TMJ 4 video from the scene shows the teenagers damaging at least several cars.
The man who was pulled from his car was treated and released from a local hospital.
Meanwhile, a few blocks away a group of girls started fighting. When police went to break up the fight near 1st and Auer, the department says a 17-year-old girl started punching and kicking a 15-year veteran officer.
She hit him in his face shield, which shattered into his face. He needed three stitches and has scratches on his neck. That 17-year-old was arrested and police are recommending charges for battery to a police officer.
Police say there was also a fight earlier in the day in the 3000 block of north 1st Street. In that case, three women were fighting. Police say a 15-year-old boy tried to break up the fight when an 18-year-old man got involved in it.
According to police, the 18-year-old got angry, walked away and told the boy he was coming back with a gun. The 18-year-old did in fact return with a gun and fired five shots into a crowd where the boy was standing. The 15-year-old's 39-year-old uncle was hit in the shoulder. He was treated and released from a local hospital.
Some people think the violence takes away from the real meaning of Juneteenth.
"I think it should be continued," said Earnestine Rogers. "It shouldn't be stopped because of some youngsters."
It's the second year in a row that violence has broken out at the celebration.
What happens if they shove something behind your tires so you can't move? A park bench, chunks of concrete, a couch from a nearby porch....
July 19th, 2007 03:30 PM
I have a second gun in my car where I can get to it quickly. I haven't practiced enough yet, but I can access my primary (4-4:30 IWB) if I need it.
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