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    Packin if you can shoot at and hit a lemon at 50 hats off , and remember that 400+ is just elevation . if you can shoot a lemon at 50 you can shoot a head( cantalope ) at a quarter mile .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Repairs View Post
    Packin if you can shoot at and hit a lemon at 50 hats off , and remember that 400+ is just elevation . if you can shoot a lemon at 50 you can shoot a head( cantalope ) at a quarter mile .
    LOL Sorry - I guess I need to clear that one up...I hit lemons at 25, although when I go for 50 it's usually paperplates...sorry for the confusion...I'm good but not that good. I suppose I could hit them once in a while...I just never bothered running the lemons out that far since my accuracy goes down at that kind of distance with plates. So I just never bothered. Next trip to sleepy creek I may just have to run some out and see how I do. 25 is a definite no problem though. I do real well with those little midget sized clays(the little silver dollar sized ones) too. I just line em up along the top of the 25yrd berm and wedge em into the mud....but as has been said around here before...hitting a static target and hitting a moving one(or while you're on the move yourself) are two very different things.
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    The FBI and DEA qual courses include a few shots from 50 yards. Not that that really means anything, but there it is... :)

    When I first started shooting pistols a lot, after spending the majority of my time behind rifles and machine guns, 25 yards seemed ridiculously close. Any closer seemed like a waste of time, the targets were so BIG and RIGHT THERE. Of course, as soon as I moved out of aimed, slow fire with nice, long barreled M9s, I realized how difficult shooting at even extreme close ranges can be, if the appropriate stressors are in place.
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    Well,..... I shot my first IDPA event last week. One stage was a single target set at 60'. We were to shoot 6 rounds standing, 6 kneeling and 6 from prone. Lets just say that I need to practice more at that range. I shot very respectfully at ranges from 25feet and closer. But of the 18 shots from my XD .40 I hit the target 7 times. all hits were low left in the -1 and -3 area. I will from this point be shooting at least a mag or 2 at 75 feet. (max dist of my indoor range).

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    I'll shoot my Sig 220 out to 100 occasionally.

    On a B27 I can usally keep them center of mass with no problem.
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    I'm all for the distance shots, and also shooting from or at a elevated position changes things too.
    The risk factor is also greatly increased with more distance.


    Also, you would be suprised at the guys who can shoot impressive scores at a distance, but are worthless up close. It is a whole different ball game.
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    I always imagine a situation in a mall type setting where a gunman is standing /walking and firing at anything that moves and I am behind cover observing.

    At that point it would be nice to know what your limitations are. Exactly what can you do with your carry weapon? Can you safely take a shot from 30 yards?

    I train out to 30 yards. Just like Lima said "If you can make a good defensive shot at 25+ yards, imagine what you could do at 7".
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_kayaker View Post
    I train out to 30 yards. Just like Lima said "If you can make a good defensive shot at 25+ yards, imagine what you could do at 7".
    At 7", I think I might bite the BG instead...
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    Whats the risk of the shot If you miss ?do you hit friendlys
    Do you expose youself to return fire ?
    Useing a rest I can put 7 rds in 4" with my T380
    at 25 yds .I feel good about a Center Punch on the
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    The pistol range here was set distances of 25 and 50 yards for years. So I shoot 25yds regularly, though they do have a 15 yrd setup now.

    I shoot 50 yds with my snubby and can hit pretty well at that range. If given a frontal or rear shot I would be confident if the perp was staionary. Unlikely that will happen, but I could do, but would likely need to brace on something to steady my hand, given the expected effects of adrenaline.

    If the perp were turned 90 degrees and/or moving, I wouldn't risk it unless supressive fire or distraction was necessary for some reason and the danger of hiting bystanders was negligable.
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    The last time I was at the range, I shot a few mags through my G19 at some empty .5 litre water bottles, unsupported, just to see what I could do. Managed to get hits about 30% of the time I would say. Encouraging, but not outstanding. I definately intend to practice this more. Like most have said, you never know at what you range might HAVE to take a shot.

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