Help Needed To Find Killer Of Disabled Man

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    Unhappy Help Needed To Find Killer Of Disabled Man

    Preface: I was not sure where to place this unfortunate news story as there was no firearm involved but a bat by the attacker. It does though exemplify the fact of 'anytime anywhere'.
    Mods I apologize if this is not the right area within the forum.

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    As reported by KCAL CBS 2 (CA):

    Jun 9, 2007 12:00 am US/Pacific
    Help Needed To Find Killer Of Disabled Man

    (CBS) LOS ANGELES The public's help was sought in finding a suspect in the fatal beating of a mentally disabled man caught on videotape.

    On May 29, about 8:45 p.m., 41-year-old James McKinney was walking to a store from a board and care facility for the mentally challenged where he lived, police said.

    As he neared the corner of Wilton Place and Olympic Boulevard in the Country Club Park district, an assailant approached him from behind and violently struck the back of his head with an aluminum baseball bat.

    The assailant fled on foot as McKinney fell to the ground and hemorrhaged. A passerby called 911.

    McKinney suffered massive head injuries and was rushed to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center where he died Sunday.

    The suspect was described as a Latino, 16- to 20-years old, 5 feet 9 inches tall, weighing 175 pounds. He was bald, wore black shorts, a dark T-shirt and white tennis shoes.



    "We hope that someone can identify the person who committed this horrific crime and will call police with information on his whereabouts," Officer April Harding said.

    Anyone with additional information on the killing can call Wilshire Division homicide detectives John Shafia or Mark Holquin at (213) 473-0446.

    The story with video of the attack can be found at; http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_159005451.html

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    King of the Dirtbags...

    Just a plain killing with little or no motive...this scumbag should be shot...many times...he doesn't deserve to live on this earth taking up valuable oxygen...

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    Janq - placed this in tactical scenarios - yeah - hard to find the ideal spot for it. But thing here is - it demonstrates how the unsuspecting can be the victim of surprise - tho in this case less likely the poor guy was alert at all.
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    Got ya and thanks for the assist!

    I saw this and the video on CNN which just made me mad as hell.
    Crime happens everyday of course but this...it's just barbarism at it's purest. That man like anyone else with full mental faculties had friends, thoughts, hopes, and desires.
    He was struck down though as if he were an animal sent off to a slaughter house. :(

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    He was struck down though as if he were an animal sent off to a slaughter house.
    That was almost my exact take too Execution.
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    So sad. Last week here in my small town a man in a wheel chair was attacked. All for 17 dollars. With a hammer no less. He was/is ok now. The world has become a scary place where you can't walk down the road. What kind of monster goes after someone with a disability? Coward.
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    Speedy trial.
    Speedy conviction.
    Deportation from life.
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    Blame it on Sixto - now that is a viable plan.

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    Is it me or does this sound like maybe gang initiation. If so that's even more despicable. I hope this sub human is found and given the max sentance, preferably death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Just a plain killing with little or no motive...this scumbag should be shot...many times...he doesn't deserve to live on this earth taking up valuable oxygen...

    ret
    Agreed.
    Even before I watched the video, I was thinking, "This is something he was told to do, some cowardly act like a random murder, in order to 'earn' his 'respect' and get initiated into some worthless gang." And then the video says that's what they suspect.



    I hope, I honestly hope, that the killer dies a horrible, painful death, himself. Hell's waiting for him, if you believe in it. And if you don't, well, then, let's just hope for his expedited death.

    [i]When are the authorities going to get serious about this kind of thing? When are they going to finally wake up and tell the GOOD people, "Hey, everyone, FIGHT BACK! Get ruthless! It's okay for good people to kill evil ones! And it's the only way we won't be overrun with criminality like this. We must not let them be in control!"

    But every time a police chief tells the public to "just give them what they want," he feeds the criminals more control.

    edit: I find myself wondering just how this happened to have been caught on a video camera! Did the thug pick that spot knowing he would be on camera? Is this just one of many police surveillance cameras around the area? (I don't know if L.A. has that big brother crap or not.)

    You know what, they should offer anyone who comes in with a tip a dream date with Mary Beth McDade! That'll get the case cracked!!

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    I'm pretty sure this is one of those third party situation where I would open fire and ask questions later.

    A seemingly defenless man on the ground beaten with a club? Two to the chest, one to the head please.

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    I am generally a non violent person. Having said that, as the father of a mentally handicapped 12yo boy, that guy better never turn up around me. I could easily see my hands shaking so badly it would take two full magazines for me to hit anything vital and stopping him.

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    wow. I hope his new gang is worth it. I hope hes happy now because hell has a special place reserved for that scum. I have a feeling anyone that walked by would have been a target. This poor guy just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. (This is wishfull thinking in part because I can't fathom wanting to kill someone for being mentally handicapped.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELCruisr View Post
    Is it me or does this sound like maybe gang initiation. If so that's even more despicable. I hope this sub human is found and given the max sentance, preferably death.
    +1 That was my first thought, as well.
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    Wannabe "big man" becomes the smallest there is: murderer without a cause. That old Karma wheel's comin' 'round. May it find him quickly, before he takes another innocent's life.

    I wonder how you say "rats in a cage" in his neighborhood?
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    Now that he's in the gang (presumably, that is), his future victims will probably be far more likely to be other gang members. Yes, occasionally they victimize innocents (carjackings, robberies, catchers-of-stray-bullets) but reports seem to say that most people murdered are criminal-on-criminal killings. Fortunately.

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