Shooting, Gun Retention, Jams, and Jail Time

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    I think this BG deserves a quick trip to the gas chamber. No appeals, no sitting on death row for years being a drain on the system. The camera shows the intent he had on killing the officer, end of story.

    I am glad thing turned out for the officer. I am sure he would do things differently. As stated early he started off good, but things went down hill upon approaching the BG door. He seemed too confident that it was just routine stop, which almost proved deadly for him. Late night solo stop, driver not responding to instructions, lots of warning signs of possible problems.

    Also the first backup on scene sure seemed very calm under what would be considered a very high stress situation.

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    +1 for popo22 and Rob 72's posts.

    The other thing approaching from passenger side, besides being unexpected is that a majority of people are right handed and this approach allows you to see what the drivers right hand is doing.

    Also I believe he hit the fleeing car 15 out of 16 rounds... That's outstanding accuracy as far as I'm concerned considering the ordeal that just played out in under 3 minutes.

    Also the bullet fractured C-1 cervical vertibrae. Had he had any spinal cord damage for an injury at that level, he would have died as it would have paralyzed his respiratory drive as well as making him a quadrapalegic. The angels were with him that night!

    Yes, capital punishment is most definitely appropriate for this scumbag... but this is the way it goes.

    You can bet this video will be played at each and every parole hearing he goes before. The chance of him doing all 63 years is pretty much a done deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Also the bullet fractured C-1 cervical vertibrae. Had he had any spinal cord damage for an injury at that level, he would have died as it would have paralyzed his respiratory drive as well as making him a quadrapalegic. The angels were with him that night!
    Yes, very lucky, I have a friend that became a quadriplegic from a gunshot to the neck (lodged between C1 and C2), she died several years later from pneumonia because she had trouble breathing.
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    OMG! God was hit the Officer that night.
    And yes, he had his spidey senses off for that stop, but he reinforced a lesson given to me by another cop: STAY IN THE FIGHT!
    He did and he is alive.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwebel View Post
    You can't watch any video on there without seeing that crap anymore. That site is a flame war for 16yr old punks and jobless fat 35yr olds. That's why I don't read the comments anymore.
    Yep.
    Most all those people are ignorant mom's basement dwellers.

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    I cannot believe the level of pure evil some people have a tendency towards. I watched the video, and the entire time I was thinking about how that person had completely and totally forfeited his right to live. Whether things could have been done differently on the officers part kind of took a back seat in my mind to how utterly savage this person was. I was relieved that the officer pulled through and had the presence of mind to ward him off but utterly heartbroken to see that this piece of trash could possibly ever roam our streets again (even if it is 6 decades from now)
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    It ashame he wasnt caught that night, as I'm sure he wouldnt have made it to trial.
    I've seen this video several times now, each time it gives me the willys. There was no doubt some tactical errors made by the officer and they are the same errors I'm guilty of. We get so used to the dangers and risks when we do it day in and out, everything can change in a split second. The BG gave a lot of warnings that this wsnt going to go smooth...
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    5. The end of the video REALLY made me angry. Why the bad guy didn't get the chair is completely beyond me. After seeing the video there is no reason why he should not have been issued the death penalty (in my humble opinion).
    to me it's a catch 22. it costs money to keep it (him) in prison but death is too good. it's an easy out and it (he) needs to rot in prison. i think the crime rate would rise if the death penalty was more enforced. although not always the case, but some criminals would think it easier to commit a crime if they knew they would die as apposed to suffering in looooong term confinement.

    It ashame he wasnt caught that night, as I'm sure he wouldnt have made it to trial.
    I've seen this video several times now, each time it gives me the willys. There was no doubt some tactical errors made by the officer and they are the same errors I'm guilty of. We get so used to the dangers and risks when we do it day in and out, everything can change in a split second. The BG gave a lot of warnings that this wsnt going to go smooth... SIXTO
    i've thought of that to. i think cops need more liberty in those cases to draw and be more intiminating if not to be more self protecting of themselves.
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    At the beginning of the video the scum is identified as a career criminal, my question is why was he even on the street?

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    Every state ought to have a lottery to hand out the privilege of putting that kind of diseased dog to death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo93 View Post
    If he got the death penalty it takes ove 10 plus years to be executed.
    That's not a flaw in the type of punishment, that's a flaw in the absurd way in which the states in this country currently administer it.


    It was only an attempt on the leo and there fore I think the death penalty does not pertain. The trooper was one lucky guy. The bg is probably a sociopath.
    "It was 'only' an 'attempt' "?!
    Are you saying that after trying as hard as he did to be this officer's stone-cold murderer, you draw a distinction between his earnest but failed effort, and success? As in, he deserves less of a punishent because he did not succeed in murdering the officer? I really hope you are kidding.

    I don't know what stand-up comic said it first, but I remember one making a joke about punishing attempted murderers more leniently than actual murderers: "Why? It just means they missed!"

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