August 1st, 2007 11:07 AM
If it were me there, I would've said to the first guy, "no hablo ingles?"
August 1st, 2007 11:28 AM
In that area of Leesburg a lot people hablo Español. These two characters may not have, but a lot do.
Originally Posted by skippythenurse
I don't think it was an Amway/Quixtar approach. I could be wrong. The ones that have hit me up have legitimate websites provided by Quixtar.
Anyway I let some friends of mine who stop at that Sheetz know about the approach. My good friend's fiancee is nice and would have gone in hook line and sinker. He has told her better now. I stop there rarely but I like that Tractor Supply and sometimes use the Tire Shop right behind Sheetz.
Procrastinators are the leaders of tomorrow.
August 1st, 2007 03:28 PM
Gotta love this forum. Reading these experiences and the opinions of others is a wealth of information.
I'm glad all worked out, but I do believe pedal would have hit metal after seeing the nod.
August 2nd, 2007 03:30 PM
Agreed, in retrospect. That's why I come here though. I get a good objective response and that helps me formulate my next thought processes and try to do better next time.
Originally Posted by robere
"My God David, We're a Civilized society."
"Sure, As long as the machines are workin' and you can call 911. But you take those things away, you throw people in the dark, and you scare the crap out of them; no more rules...You'll see how primitive they can get."
-The Mist (2007)
August 2nd, 2007 03:43 PM
Everyone in here as "screwed up" or done something unwise before. You know that you screwed up and now you can fix it. There isn't much more you can do.
Originally Posted by packinnova
August 2nd, 2007 10:16 PM
But open carry is supposed to make you more vulnerable and less tactical. How did you ever survive?
Originally Posted by unrequited
I'm EMS too, but.. I'm a lot more selective than I used to be in who I help.
Originally Posted by Bark'n
Been there, done that, got the cleaning supplies to prove it. I thought the same thing at first, only maybe a copycat business.
Originally Posted by sailormnop
"Each worker carried his sword strapped to his side." Nehemiah 4:18
Guns Save Lives. Paramedics Save Lives. But...
Paramedics With Guns Scare People!
August 3rd, 2007 11:27 PM
you were quite fortunate to have avoided a what seems to me an attempted carjacking/robbery....stay safe and keep your guard up!
August 4th, 2007 02:41 AM
> ) Somebody finally picked up on that.
Originally Posted by paramedic70002
<---EMT as well, and I'll admit I've walked blindly into some idiot situations (all of which were legit thankfully) because I was trying to be a good samaritan.
Originally Posted by paramedic70002
August 8th, 2007 07:56 AM
"I treat everybody I meet with respect, until it's time not to.........
from Rules for a Gun Fight:
21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. "
I know rule #1, what are the rest of the rules, like rule 2-20? Not to be a wise guy, just curious.
August 8th, 2007 02:49 PM
USMC and Navy Rules for Gun Fighting
Originally Posted by XD Joe
The USMC Rules For Gun Fighting
1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring
all of your friends who have guns.
2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo
is cheap. Life is expensive.
3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.
4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not
moving fast enough nor using cover correctly.
5. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend.
(Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.)
6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long
gun and a friend with a long gun.
7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber,
stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating,
reloading, and running.
9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will
be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent
accuracy of the gun.
9.5 Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when
an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket."
10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they
should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. Have a plan.
13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work.
14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
16. Don't drop your guard.
17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees.
18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everyone
else, keep your hands where I can see them).
19. Decide to be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.
20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you
22. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
23. Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong
commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.
24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which
does not start with a "4."
The Navy Rules for Gun Fighting
1. Go to Sea
2. Send the Marines
3. Drink Coffee...
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
August 8th, 2007 03:23 PM
If guy #2 could get cables from #1 who was getting into his car why couldn't guy #1 just jump him off of his car? I would have pointed this out and bid them a pleasant day.
DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONtestING THE VOTE.
Certified Instructor for Minnesota Carry Permit
NRA Pistol and Personal Protection Insrtuctor
Utah Permit Certified Instructor
August 8th, 2007 07:17 PM
August 9th, 2007 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by goawayfarm
Whoa... Hold on there a minute. This was NOT a "help/defense" type situation. This was NOT the same as ignoring an elderly person getting beat down or a young woman being raped...
One guy simply wanted directions and it turned into an unwanted "internet business" discussion. The other guy only wanted a jump start. Proper directions OR auto service could have been attained through the use of a cell phone, which just about EVERYONE has these days. They can call AAA or use the pay phone at the gas station if they don't have one.
The OP is lucky he's alive after STAYING around these shady characters too long. Especially after realizing (more than once) that something might not be right. Why help two people that "seem to know" each other (the "nod") and lied (one didn't go to McD's when he said he did) just to "sabotage" their jump start process to prove that they were FOS? He's lucky he didn't get jumped for his exposed "tucked" firearm.
After all, it's not like the OP would have left the guys dying on the side of the road in the middle of the Mohave desert or something. They were at a manned gas station and MORE than capable of helping themselves. They were not in dangerous situations. The OP was! (OP = original poster)
August 9th, 2007 07:43 PM
This is just my personal opinion but if I'm out on the street somewhere and I don't know you then I don't want too much to do with you. I would have said "sorry I can't help but I'm sure they have a phone inside." If that didn't get rid of the person then I would have really been wary. The best way to stay safe is to keep a physical distance between yourself and other people.
August 9th, 2007 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by wvshooter
Yup. If there's other available services, then people need to be personally resourceful and not bug other people for "help", especially if you're "interviewing" them for a crime.
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