You Can Never Have Too Much Ammo

You Can Never Have Too Much Ammo

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    You Can Never Have Too Much Ammo

    Unless you are drowning or on fire...

    Multiple-assailant scenarios are all too real:

    Cleveland Home Invasion Shows Need For High Capacity Magazines
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    Good article. Thanks.
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    I agree that more capacity is never a bad thing.

    But, being one who is the eternal skeptic, I have to question the timing of this story.

    What I mean, is that with the AR 15 and high cap mags now safe from legislation, and a probable backlog of guns made in anticipation of a hostile administration, this news story kind of sounds like an infomercial to help unload all of these rifles.

    Anyway, I don't disagree with the synopsis of the article, but this is actually been happening for some time now.
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    Good article.
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    Lets look this simply.. "Bandits" have been attacking people for hundreds of years and the concept of 3-4 or 5 people attacking someone is not a phenomenon. I agree that it [can] take numerous shots to stop an individual attacker and then again, a less determined attacker may change his channels with the first shot. Any determination as to what is likely needed to defend your home depends on a whole lot of issues. Issues that can change substantially from place to place, person to person or country to country. Generally speaking, most people are not trying to downgrade their capabilities but weapon selection is often times a compromise between convenience, practicality and cost. If defending your home is the main priority, most people don't mind the size and weight of a HD gun which is not normally carried. In those instances, I could understand a desire for a suitable caliber weapon with high capacity. If your HD gun is your CC gun, that's where the compromise begins to enter the picture for a lot of people. I am not one who will take a handful of examples and call it the "norm". Might I need 30 rounds to defend my home from a gaggle of armed criminals?.. perhaps. Does that mean I am doomed to failure if all I have is a 6 shot 44 special? Nope. It just means that errors and mistakes will be less forgiving, it doesn't mean that my defenses are less capable. I am willing the gamble that I am more resolute in my desire to survive as compared to how resolute a gaggle of thugs are- to rob me. The article was well written and thoughtful but I am not the least bit worried about relying on a big bore revolver, 20ga shotgun and 2 female Dobermans. If badguys want to kick in my door, its gonna be one heck of a loud party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    I agree that more capacity is never a bad thing.

    But, being one who is the eternal skeptic, I have to question the timing of this story.

    What I mean, is that with the AR 15 and high cap mags now safe from legislation, and a probable backlog of guns made in anticipation of a hostile administration, this news story kind of sounds like an infomercial to help unload all of these rifles.

    Anyway, I don't disagree with the synopsis of the article, but this is actually been happening for some time now.
    Yup, now that at least a glimmer of relief from the last eight years has resulted in a collective sigh of relief, the gun-rights groups and the industry need a new bogeyman upon which to keep their relevance front and center.
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    Good read thanks. In the end the article really shows the need for a good home defense plan by what ever means the occupant deems necessary. What ever they use for a firearm, they must be well trained with it and have confidence when the adrenaline is pumping they can put hits on their desired target. Training and planning go along way, including a plan to secure your home against these types of situations.
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    My only comment is..."Cleveland". Threat assessment changes with location and Cleveland would be on at least my two gun list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Yup, now that at least a glimmer of relief from the last eight years has resulted in a collective sigh of relief, the gun-rights groups and the industry need a new bogeyman upon which to keep their relevance front and center.
    The right is no more on our side than the left. It would be silly for anyone to let their guard down now, although many people will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Yup, now that at least a glimmer of relief from the last eight years has resulted in a collective sigh of relief, the gun-rights groups and the industry need a new bogeyman upon which to keep their relevance front and center.
    Yep, you get my thoughts.
    The bogeyman is a great way of putting it. They are probably looking beyond the Christmas holiday, at the surplus of guns they have and no crisis to move them.

    So, conjuring up another crisis is the solution.

    First it was a Hi cap pistol is needed for defense, now that just ain't good enough.

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    Owens isn't one of my favorite authors to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    My only comment is..."Cleveland". Threat assessment changes with location and Cleveland would be on at least my two gun list.
    Just to be clear, this was in Cleveland TN, not the mistake by the lake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    Owens isn't one of my favorite authors to begin with.
    Oops, I didn't notice the by-line. Not one of mine, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    My only comment is..."Cleveland". Threat assessment changes with location and Cleveland would be on at least my two gun list.
    Yeah...it's crazy here. You best HD weapon is a handgun to allow you to get to your 12ga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1953 View Post
    Just to be clear, this was in Cleveland TN, not the mistake by the lake.
    Yeah you have to screen through all of the home invasions here to figure that out as we have so many up here you need a program to figure out who the players are.

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