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    Ex-sniper has got it right. They even make a door wedge with an alarm. Add a chair on its side, a flashlight beside your bed and you should sleep soundly.

    Limit access, and adjust response based on the acutal threat.


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    Im in a hotel room? xd9 on night stand, all possible locks engaged on the door, and if my wife hears an ant fart she wakes up! I think shes my best home security alarm. If they get thru the door and 17 rounds of Gold dot fury, I think its just my time to go.

    All this after positively ID'ing my target as not there to make sure I have enough towels...
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    I think this happens more than anyone would think or should. I too walked in on a couple late nite at a motel, surprised me and scared the hell out of them (as I look like a member of the Hells' Angels)...needles to say, the motel clerk was VERY appologetic to both the room guest and myself. The room guest should have had their inside door locks applied.

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    no need to shoot just because of that,
    as for me I use all the security devices available and we never stay at the, well, how do I put this....the cheap places that only have wimpy locks on the doors
    if someone were to get in they would be blinded by the surefire and I'd have a gun in the other hand for sure
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    Just a word to the wise. Those swing arm locks are very easy to defeat if you can open the door and have the proper equipment (a rubber band and a thumbtack).

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    Matt, do I even want to ask how you know that? You are on the right track though, a lot of locking devices can be breached.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    Just a word to the wise. Those swing arm locks are very easy to defeat if you can open the door and have the proper equipment (a rubber band and a thumbtack).

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    Does the tack work with a steel door as well.

    I don't think I would want to be standing there hooking up that rig when someone inside was telling me they are armed and to stop what I was doing.

    Really, I think we all are curious, how did you devise that system for bypassing the swing arm?
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    There's an old video tape out there called From A to Z on B & E: Everything You Need to Know On Breaking and Entering

    Originally released for LEO's it did manage to make it out to the public in certain magazines. Paladen Press comes to mind?

    I had an old bootleg copied edition I got from a deputy from another state about 20 plus years ago.

    It showed the rubberband and thumbtack method to silently defeat the old fashioned "chain locks" in which the security chain mounted on the door frame slides in to a slot recepticle mounted to the edge of the door.

    I imagine the same technique can be used on the "swinging bar" door locks as well.

    the tack obviously wouldn't work on a steel door frame, but if you stuck it into the drywall next to the frame it might then again you might use an instant epoxy or super glue or strong adhesive duct tape on the steel door. (You have to learn to think "outside the box")

    Oh yeah, you wouldn't be doing that if you had alerted the occupants to your presence. That would just be... well... Stupid!
    That technique is used for a stealth entry.
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    A LARGE flathead screwdriver and be used to spread the slide bar so that the ball end can pass thru..it isnt rocket science..real easy to do.

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    My in-laws had an incident at 2am where a lady had the wrong door. She kept fidgeting with the door and key over and over again, and my father-in-law had enough, cracked open the door, and said, "We're here." It scared the lady so badly she shrieked at the top of her lungs, twice. So her husband runs over and gets angry at my father-in-law for "scaring his wife to death," and tries to escalate the situation. My mother-in-law threatens to call the cops, which makes the man back down.
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    All the things explored here to stay safe are great, but as someone who works in a hotel allow me to repeat myself: Use a chair and/or luggage to block access to your room when inside. I am not worried about somebody accidentally trying to get in your room but about somebody deternined to go in your room by force.
    OK hell, I am going to scare you with the truth. Most hotel doors are fire rated which makes them look solid as hell and they are. The trouble resides in the lock. The locks are huge & mortise required to insert them in the door leave less than 1/4 on an inch of material on each side of the lock. A good shove (no kick, no running in and impacting the door) will pop it open. I know this because I accidentally broke one door helping a maintenance guy trying to fix a lock. My jaw dropped to the floor at the lack of strenght.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    And if you needed another reason to secure your hotel room door:

    Simpson Named Suspect in Casino Break-In

    Sep 14 02:15 PM US/Eastern
    By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY and LINDA DEUTSCH
    Associated Press Writers

    LAS VEGAS (AP) - Investigators questioned O.J. Simpson and named him a suspect Friday in a confrontation at a casino hotel room involving sports memorabilia. The former football star acknowledged going to the room to get property he said was stolen from him but denied breaking in.
    Simpson told The Associated Press auction house owner Tom Riccio called him several weeks ago to say some collectors "have a lot of your stuff and they don't want anyone to know they are selling it."
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    And if you needed another reason to secure your hotel room door:
    This story has so much speculation going on its not even worth paying attention to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Does the tack work with a steel door as well.

    I don't think I would want to be standing there hooking up that rig when someone inside was telling me they are armed and to stop what I was doing.

    Really, I think we all are curious, how did you devise that system for bypassing the swing arm?
    Worked in hotel security many moons ago. If you let the door slam closed, it can engage the bar with nobody in the room, so we got called to open them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattLarson View Post
    Worked in hotel security many moons ago. If you let the door slam closed, it can engage the bar with nobody in the room, so we got called to open them.

    Matt
    Since then we have a nice little tool that opens it in a jiffy. It will make a racket but will get the job done.

    Also, Hotel locks use magnetic cards now instead of keys and guest actually have phones in the room....
    Sorry Matt, you let yourself wide open for that one, I could not let it pass
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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