Would you leave the scene?

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    Would you leave the scene?

    Not sure if this has been posted before, but if you were in a situation where you had to use lethal force to defend yourself, and still felt very threatened afterwards, would you leave the area and wait somewhere else for the police?

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    If there was residual threat then quite possibly move away from area but still - be in contact with LE post haste - and give description of events and their location - plus current location.

    Could well be cases where hangin' around to wait for cops would be less than wise. I imagine something ''gang'' oriented, where other BG's could well be soon on the scene.
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    If staying there was as dangerous as the immediate threat, I would leave in a heartbeat. It would seem like the smart thing to do.

    I posted a thread awhile back about a friend of mine that did just that. He told the Prosecutor that the crowd of "hostiles" gathering made verbal threats after he shot someone. The Prosecutor apparently thought so too and it was ruled a justifiable shoot.

    He only mistake was that he went home...and the police stopped him before he got there,pulling him out at gunpoint...so there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.
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    With no problem at all. I'm going to a place where I feel safe no matter how far it is so that I can call the LEO's without looking over my shoulder to do so.

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    If there was residual threat then quite possibly move away from area but still - be in contact with LE post haste - and give description of events and their location - plus current location.
    As my old DO used to say, "The first phone call wins."

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    I would leave the scene and immediately call the police to arrange a meeting place. If it was not too far I would even drive to their station. Kind of hard for an "anti" prosecutor to spin that.

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    First one to call 911 is the complaintant.....the last one to call is the suspect
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    Duty to retreat----So if I have to leave in-order to prevent another shooting---absolutely! Call to LEO while leaving, call to attorney after LEO call, watch to make sure you are not being followed. Sure hate to leave, don't know if any of the evidence gets tampered with then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fairway1 View Post
    .. if you were in a situation where you had to use lethal force to defend yourself, and still felt very threatened afterwards ...
    No laws are going to force me to endanger myself or my family, if I'm in a place where the threat is real and growing. Nor are they intended to do that, to flush us from behind cover and force us to stay at the exact scene come Hell or high water.

    After I have gotten to a place of safety, then (and only then) will I have any thought or concern about calling in the cavalry. If that place of safety happens to be right there, given the location and/or presence of others who can assist, fine. But if I cannot ensure my continued safety until the cavalry arrive? I'm outta there. Every time.

    Now, these statements about the "last" to call being the criminal ... Well, yes, some small and petty minds in law enforcement may certainly jump to that conclusion, since my not being at the scene will certainly suggest certain possibilities. I, too, would consider all options as possibilities. However, the facts remain: We were assaulted and in fear for our lives; it wasn't safe enough to stay right there at that moment; we called immediately, as soon as possible; we assisted in the clean-up to the degree we could; through our attorney, we were cooperative in all the appropriate ways. If able, I'll certainly call for the cavalry earlier rather than later, but never, EVER if that call itself is going to put me/mine in mortal danger of not making it through the situation, I don't care what it looks like.
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    If there were still the potential of more bad guys trying to harm/kill me or my family then absolutely I would leave the area. I would also be on the cell with the cops as fast as possible, explaining the situation to them in the greatest of detail so that I do not become the actor in an armed assault call by the scum bags who forced me to shoot.

    It is worth pointing out that whom ever calls the cops first is deemed to be the good guy in a lot of cases, at least until things get sorted out. And that can take a long time sometimes.
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    Common Sense...

    Rule #1...move to safe area...
    Rule #1.1...call police ASAP...

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    All good advice!

    If in danger, move! Reload during any lull in hostilities and communicate as soon as possible.

    If having to leave the scene to avoid continued threats, at least try not to go to another state or country! <--- Ok, that was a joke too! I'm on a roll tonight!
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    I too would leave if there was still the possibility of a threat. But, I would be concerned about possible friends of the bg tampering with or removing evidence. What if someone removes the bg's weapon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairway1 View Post
    I too would leave if there was still the possibility of a threat. But, I would be concerned about possible friends of the bg tampering with or removing evidence. What if someone removes the bg's weapon?

    I was just thinking the same thing. I agree on quickly notifying the police about the incident/leaving the area due to it being unsafe. No doubt when the police arrive at this hostile are, there will be no knife or gun around whatsoever.

    What do ya'll think? Leave the BG's weapon for it to disappear or given the chance take that evidence with you for safekeeping?
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    Leave the BG's weapon for it to disappear or given the chance take that evidence with you for safekeeping?
    That seems a ''catch 22'' - either lose the evidence or - tampering with evidence. Plus too - how would we prove ''the other gun'' was in fact someone else's??

    Seems like a tricky dilemma.
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