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    I think it would be wise to use other options first. That said, I have to think a decent defense attorney could make sure there's at least one dog-lover on the jury.
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    I wouldnt shoot him (at first) I would run out and tell him he is under citizens arrest for the "felony X" that he was involved in. At that point I have every legal right to keep him from leaving in any way that I need to use until the police get there. If he fights me, I will put him down with extreme bias (physically, not using a firearm yet) If it escalated to him grabbing a weapon... then all bets are off
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    Who says ya gotta use a firearm ? Beat them into submission if you are capable and call the law. You should be able to justify use of force just not deadly force...
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    That might work for others, but being in a chair I don't have time for all that Chuck Norris BS, they die.
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    Teach your dog to fend for himself. Let him beat up the attacker.
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    Oh trust me, my animals will rip you to shreds before they breathe their last, they can handle themselves. But humans are still more dangerous, so I'll come out and save the person from a closed casket funeral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubus View Post
    I wouldnt shoot him (at first) I would run out and tell him he is under citizens arrest for the "felony X" that he was involved in. At that point I have every legal right to keep him from leaving in any way that I need to use until the police get there. If he fights me, I will put him down with extreme bias (physically, not using a firearm yet) If it escalated to him grabbing a weapon... then all bets are off
    Why not just put yourself in between the dog and batter to protect the dog. Prepared for immediately having to fire on him. If he swings the bat once more to harm the dog, or swings at you to get you to move, drop him from near contact distance. One hand up, stop, start moving between them, other hand on gun not openly displayed, when it becomes imminent, well, you were just trying to protect the dog and ended up having to defend yourself from grave bodily harm or death.

    I don't believe it's my responsibility to worry about whether my moving to protect the dog is legal or not, of course one can protect their pet from harm by another animal or person, they can't use deadly force trying to save the dogs life. In the above, they didn't threaten nor display deadly force when they moved between the dog and batter.

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    When I'm moving as fast as I will be toward the dog, I expect the batter to take note and believe I'm might be rushing him. One can only hope that they make the right choice and move off/desist in their actions or drop the bat and stand there. It's in everyone's best interest that one of the above happens while making the rapid approach, lest a deadly force situation presents itself as imminent, and it will be a bad day for not only the dog, but the batter and myself. I prefer to not have to find out anytime soon. Oh, and it wouldn't have to be MY dog that was getting beat for me to intervene on the dogs behalf, just the way I'm built.
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    If you're beating someones' pet or even your own, you've earned that bullet in my opinion. Animal cruelty is right up there with hurting a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzQkr View Post
    Exactly, move to intercede the perp and force the situation on him to back off or attack you as well. If he does attack you, game on.
    Exactly what I would do. If, in my intervening, the perp then attacks me, I can defend myself on my property.
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    NH has a stand your ground law and castle doctrine and is similar to Indiana in that I can use any force up to and including deadly force based on the threat to me. I would get between the attacker and my dog and take whatever steps necessary to prevent myself from getting seriously hurt. I have a feeling that at least one of my dogs would not take kindly to an attack and would protect himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwell97 View Post
    I think it would be wise to use other options first. That said, I have to think a decent defense attorney could make sure there's at least one dog-lover on the jury.
    Are you willing to bet your life on that?
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    Just beat the stranger nearly to death. Doubt there would be a conviction in KY. People often demonstrate that pesky quality called common sense down here.
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    My two bull mastiffs are registered service dogs. Not sure exactly how that effects the law but I know it dose. If someone was beating them to death I can't honestly say what my reaction would be. not a scenario I'd like to ponder on. About the only thing I could say for sure is that my reactions would be immediate and severe. My male bullie literally saved my life I would not be here if not for him. As I owe him my life I could not stand Idly by and watch him lose his. Unfortunately for myself and more so for the perpetrator I do believe I would have the damn the torpedoes full speed ahead mentality and to hell with the consequences. I truly believe that someone that abuses an animal ( if they're not already doing so ) are one small step from child abuse and are most likely future serial killers. Statistics back me up with this belief. If you check most serial killers start out torturing animals. For scum like that I do have a strong rope and a stout tree that is a permanent cure for what ails them.
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