Trespasser killing your pet in the yard, deadly force justified?

Trespasser killing your pet in the yard, deadly force justified?

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    Trespasser killing your pet in the yard, deadly force justified?

    A hypothetical scenario came into mind, and I did a little searching on it. Your dog is in your yard barking and being a dog, and a stranger comes onto your property and just starts beating your dog to death.

    The trespasser is not in your home, so castle doctrine is not in effect, and in my state you can't use deadly force to defend property and a dog is considered property. However, aggrevated animal cruelty is a felony, so I'm not sure if that allows for defense. Morally, most people would probably not kill someone to save their pet, especially if the bad guy is obviously a minor/teenager. But if I were on the jury, I think it could be justified if stopping the commission of a "class x" felony is legal.

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    I would confront the individual...Then its their choice how to play. My dog in my state is considered property, so going to guns first is a mistake.
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    Ask John Wick ,he didn't take to kindly to killing his dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerald View Post
    Ask John Wick ,he didn't take to kindly to killing his dog.
    Neither did Marcus Luttrell.
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    We have a great, big, long thread about a similar topic only recently.

    Long story short - We (rightly) imagine our pets as family. The law (rightly) classifies our critters as property. I'm not an attorney (thank Gaud!), yet it seems to me a real s-t-r-e-c-h to justifiably defend a shooting in this instance under the Castle Doctrine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    I would confront the individual...Then its their choice how to play. My dog in my state is considered property, so going to guns first is a mistake.
    Sounds right.

    If he makes lickity split gone then call the vet and the local police. If he makes armed threats (he is armed, obviously) then do what needs to be done and then call the vet and the police.

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    In this case, I would probably just have to go to jail. Ain't nobody doing that to one of my dogs, regardless of what the law says. Thankfully, that scenario isn't very likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    I would confront the individual...Then its their choice how to play. My dog in my state is considered property, so going to guns first is a mistake.
    Exactly, move to intercede the perp and force the situation on him to back off or attack you as well. If he does attack you, game on.
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    Know the Law.

    Have good deterrents (fence, signs, video surveillance, lighting)

    Have less lethal options.

    Try to not be the neighbor with the constantly barking or vicious dog. IOW, if you have a pet, try to get one that you can manage and prevent becoming a nuisance.

    Let's face it. If you have a herding dog who needs to run and run and you tie him up in a large yard it won't be enough. People will get mad. It's partly the blame of the dog's owner.

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    It all depends on the tresspasser. You mentioned minors and teenagers. If it is a kid that I can easily stop, then I would. If it's some crazy deranged big dude that I would'nt be able to whip at my age, then I would get in the mix and stop him. The rest would be up to him. Then I would tell the story as I see fit.
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