A Friends Violent Boyfriend

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    Excellent job of getting the police involved. Under your circumstances, I would carry everywhere I could, even around the house. Filing a restraining order is good for legal purposes, but obviously it can't be trusted to protect you worth a whit. Sounds like you will be in condition orange for awhile. Be ready for this guy any time, any place. I also recommend a backup gun, but maybe that's just my preference.

    I hope you do something quick about the locks/your living arrangement. Him having unfettered access is very dangerous. Since the police have talked to him, if he returns, expect the worst. I don't know what training you've had or your mental outlook, but I hope you are mentally prepared to stop the threat immediately and without reservation. This guy sounds like a loose cannon looking for a place to explode.

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    Wrong Answer...

    Quote Originally Posted by BigEFan View Post
    BANG!!!!!
    There were three...

    Correct answer...bang, bang, bang; bang, bang, bang; bang, bang, bang...

    I also agree with "peacful...", a paper trail (if possible) is extremely important!
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    Screwed up credit due to non-payment of rent, pregnant girlfriend with credit problems of her own, threats from people with whom you are vaguely acquainted...I don't want to sound like a dad, broknin, but what are you learning from all of this? With all due respect, you having a firearm at this point in your life might be something you should reconsider until you are mature enough to handle the additional responsibility--something I hope you are working on for the sake of your unborn child. It's not just you anymore, dude. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan M. View Post
    Screwed up credit due to non-payment of rent, pregnant girlfriend with credit problems of her own, threats from people with whom you are vaguely acquainted...I don't want to sound like a dad, broknin, but what are you learning from all of this? With all due respect, you having a firearm at this point in your life might be something you should reconsider until you are mature enough to handle the additional responsibility--something I hope you are working on for the sake of your unborn child. It's not just you anymore, dude. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but...
    Ouch,thats a bit harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasSIG View Post
    Ouch,thats a bit harsh.
    Just holding up a mirror, as folks have done for me more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan M. View Post
    Screwed up credit due to non-payment of rent, pregnant girlfriend with credit problems of her own, threats from people with whom you are vaguely acquainted...I don't want to sound like a dad, broknin, but what are you learning from all of this? With all due respect, you having a firearm at this point in your life might be something you should reconsider until you are mature enough to handle the additional responsibility--something I hope you are working on for the sake of your unborn child. It's not just you anymore, dude. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but...
    I completelky understand what you're saying and its not harsh at all. Its the truth. I have learned a lot over the years and I am working on cleaning up my past mistakes.

    Unfortunately due to my mistakes in the past, I'm stuck in terrible neighborhoods. Owning a firearm is not a responsibility that I don't think I can handle. If stuff hits the fan, I want to be able to defend myself, my finance, and my child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanilla_gorilla View Post
    This is the correct answer.
    Agreed.

    Statements and steps have been made by the perons three that have forced the victim to make a play.
    Either play rollover Rover or go Cujo on their butts.

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    The guy made some early life boo-boos as did his fiancé but, he sure sounds like he is attempting to clean it all up and get it on the right path for his forthcoming child.
    Sometimes it's pretty tough climbing out of a deep & slippery hole.

    My advice to him would be to try to use all possible situational avoidance in this scenario because even a "good justified shoot" can be terribly life altering especially if there are follow-up civil charges filed against him by the aggressor's family. Remember that it is usually NOT over...even when you are cleared of all criminal charges.
    And any legal defense can get expensive and it does not sound like this individual has all sorts of free cash laying around to pay out in attorney fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benthic View Post
    Keep in mind that, in this scenario, the person in question is sub-leasing the apartment. I would hope that he and the person that he is sub-leasing from have a formal, written agreement in place. Otherwise he may have a tough time proving that he had a right to be there.
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    Well, I'll be. That's exactly what my first thought was.

    I'd make the police report also, although not every day.
    Fill out whatever paperwork is necessary to keep him 100 feet from you also.
    New locks.
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    If you're in an apartment complex, almost every apartment complex lease in the world prohibits sub-leasing. You'd have no recourse against the landlord for either violence committed against you or the landlord tossing you for changing the locks, etc.

    I infer from your post that the original lessee is not your significant other.

    Bottom line, somebody or multiples of somebody show up in my living room, sorry for them, but they're leaving horizontally.

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    You might look into finding a friend, someone who trusts you to help you get another apartment by co-signing a lease with you. This sub-let doesn't sound too cool.
    I once co-signed for a girl once many moons ago who I really didn't know that well. The reason being was that her ex-fiance started getting pretty violent. I wanted to help her but boy was I glad when that 12 month lease was up.
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    "Get out"

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    Call 911: "Send police and an ambulance...four men have been shot...the address is....."

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    as has been said before call the police report the threats, change the locks if possible, try to find a new place, and if by chance, you need to use your weapon before you are able to move the police reports will help your cause.
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    Even with really bad credit, if you establish yourself in a very credible way with the property management, the manager can decide to terminate the lease with the original tenant and work with you directly. Management would probably keep you on a short leash but could go a long way toward rebuilding your own credit record.

    It may even be that the original tenant has violated her lease by subletting it to you without management's approval. That would allow management to immediately void her lease, evict you and lease the apartment out to someone new. If you show management that you are an asset to their property (taking exceptional care of the apartment, being very courteous to other tenants, paying rent always on time, etc.), they may give you the opportunity to turn things around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan M. View Post
    Screwed up credit due to non-payment of rent, pregnant girlfriend with credit problems of her own, threats from people with whom you are vaguely acquainted...I don't want to sound like a dad, broknin, but what are you learning from all of this? With all due respect, you having a firearm at this point in your life might be something you should reconsider until you are mature enough to handle the additional responsibility--something I hope you are working on for the sake of your unborn child. It's not just you anymore, dude. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but...

    Good advice for the long road. +1


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