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This is a discussion on At what distance would you engage a shooter? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tns0038 Unless you practice regularly at distance with the same handgun you’re carrying, engaging the BG could result in you going to ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Unless you practice regularly at distance with the same handgun you’re carrying, engaging the BG could result in you going to jail for the rest of your life for accidentally killing a bystander.

    While I don’t know about you, I am no longer an LEO so I have no free legal representation, and just having an attorney represent me in questioning could cost $3500 or more. Further if I accidentally shot a bystanders, attorney fees could go upward to $50,000 or more.

    Long story short, I would only engage the BG if I had a clear shot, at close range, with NO background bystanders, or he was shooting at my family and I, thus leaving me no choice.

    Another thing you should consider:

    Since the Church had hired armed security, the security guard may think your part of the threat, and shoot you should you draw your handgun.
    That is very good advice, which IMO we shoud all heed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tns0038 View Post
    Another thing you should consider:

    Since the Church had hired armed security, the security guard may think your part of the threat, and shoot you should you draw your handgun.

    Since this story broke: It turns out that the Security Officer is a non paid volunteer who attends the Church as a member and volunteers her services in the security ministry..

    But it is still great advice!

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    Get his head down! I'd engage at the distance where I had cover, preferrably with more than one way out.

    As to actual distances--our group practices routinely at 100 yards with everything from 9mm to .45 ACP. I am absolutely confident in my ability to put his head down with any of my full sized guns at that range. I might actually hit him, but I can certainly get inside of his decision cycle and give people some time to get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK Dan View Post
    Get his head down! I'd engage at the distance where I had cover, preferrably with more than one way out.

    As to actual distances--our group practices routinely at 100 yards with everything from 9mm to .45 ACP. I am absolutely confident in my ability to put his head down with any of my full sized guns at that range. I might actually hit him, but I can certainly get inside of his decision cycle and give people some time to get out.

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    Good point. Forcing the BG into defensive mode rather than being aggressive definitely would give more folks a chance at escape or to seek cover.

    Containing the situation may be the best you can do. But that alone is going to save lives.

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    how good of a shot are you if you can't hit the target at 5 yards you won't at 20.

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    50 yds with a .45 or .357 or 10mm; 200 yds with a .44 mag.

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    Depends on the situation
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    As with many others, whenever I fear for my life...no matter what the distance...(within reason, of course).

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    Completely depends on the circumstances. If I hit the lottery and a clear field of fire and a good back stop and good cover for me, I might be willing to go to a hundred yards with my P226. Now back to reality. I might go 50 yards with a full torso visible. If it has to be a head shot, no more than fifty feet. Even there I think I would be pushing my luck quite a bit. On paper it is easy enough, but I have never had a B-27 shoot back at me.
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    Engage at about 25 yards, the perp would be filling the sites.
    Anything further would be just luck (on my part).

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    I agree that there are too many possible variables to answer your question specifically.

    Ideally, I'd want to be close enough to ensure I can place all my shots COM and a head shot if needed. That's a lot easier at the range than it is on a living moving target!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nn View Post
    50 yds with a .45 or .357 or 10mm; 200 yds with a .44 mag.
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    At what distance would you engage a shooter?
    At the distance required to terminate the deadly threat. That will vary by situation specifics, the existence of visual or physical cover, what arms were in play. Beyond about 30yds or so, I'd say the odds would be against making a dent against someone with a rifle.
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