December 17th, 2007 09:47 PM
Robbery Prevention / Tips (YEAH RIGHT)
I received these "tips" from our neighborhood police and would like some help on a statistic i saw once somewhere where it stated that it was better to resist and fight rather than cooperate? Can someone enlighten me on this "fact"
I seriously feel like writing our asst. police chief, no where does she mention any preventative measure (code yellow).
Nothing about being aware of your surroundings, nothing about parking in well lit areas, nothing about not going anywhere alone if you can help it, And of course nothing about defending yourself. SHEESH!
ROBBERY PREVENTION / TIPS
• If confronted, try to stay calm.
• If a suspect says they have a weapon, do not force their
• When facing someone wielding a weapon do not resist,
• Never try to apprehend a suspect yourself.
• Mentally note the assailant’s appearance without staring.
• After the confrontation, go to the phone and dial 9-1-1 as
soon as possible.
• Robbers usually ‘case’ their target so look for people
loitering in a parking lot or acting nervous or ‘just not right’.
• Display height markers for identifying suspects.
• Keep small amounts of cash on hand if possible.
• Use a drop safe that is visible.
This information is provided by City of San Marcos Police Department.
For additional information, please contact
Lisa Dvorak, Assistant Chief of Police
San Marcos Police Department
2300 IH35 South
San Marcos, Texas 78666
December 17th, 2007 09:54 PM
This is an old and boring ''recommendation'' - churned out by (it seems) many a police chief .... not usually I would expect by a street-wise cop who knows what can go down.
It is like saying - potential rape victim - do as your told and think of the flag ... and you may not get shot.
Like saying to a clerk in a 7/11 ... just comply and he won't shoot you.
Sad to say we almost all know different and the bottom line these days is - if a gun is ''in ya face'' it's time to act - with your gun. That in my language is ''cooperation".
Sorry - no second guessing or we don't come out alive.
I really do not believe some of the ''higher echelons'' of law enforcement ''get it''.
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December 17th, 2007 09:55 PM
I think writing your police chief would be a nice gesture, but that's it - you won't get anything changed.
Those rules are written for the "average", uneducated, unaware "sheep" of a citizen. Most of the members of this forum don't fall into that category and wouldn't follow any instruction that wasn't in their best interest.
To be honest, for the average unarmed "sheep" citizen... what else do you want them to do? There aren't a lot of options when unarmed and staring down the business end of a barrel. And if they were armed (and hopefully not of the "sheep" mindset), then these instructions wouldn't really apply to them....
December 17th, 2007 10:34 PM
Never try to apprehend a suspect yourself.
that is the only one with any value. If you try to handcuff a suspect by yourself, chances are it will go wrong.
Everything else, the proper force applied (like 5lbs with my index finger?) can reolve a lot :p
December 17th, 2007 10:48 PM
Who said anything about handcuffs? There are other ways of to apprehend the suspect without handcuffs. Hell boys this is Texas, we can do darn near anything during a robbery.
Originally Posted by C9H13NO3
Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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December 18th, 2007 09:34 AM
In San Marcos, TX? Sheeite. Ms. Dvorak doesn't walk around her state much or respond to any calls, apparently. Stupidity, by definition, always flies in the face of reason and practical experience.
December 18th, 2007 10:41 AM
The whole point of this 'advice' is that you should trust your safety and survival to the good will of bad people.
"If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Place on Earth!" Ronald Reagan
December 18th, 2007 11:02 AM
CRIME..... LAW DEFINES, POLICE ENFORCE, CITIZENS PREVENT!
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December 18th, 2007 12:29 PM
In one of my criminal justice classes, we took a test on what to do in a mugging or robbery attempt.
I pretty much put "Shoot them" when the "correct" answers were "Surrender" or "Run"
December 18th, 2007 02:59 PM
Those living in TN are familiar with Paul Dennis Reid, the guy who killed at least seven fast food employees. I think he's still sitting on death row eating breakfast compliments of the taxpayers.
Yes, cooperate and give them what they want. Get herded to the back room and lie face down on the floor.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa
December 18th, 2007 03:32 PM
In Massachusetts you'll be safe by just carrying a loud whistle
I swear, I hear it on the news everytime theres a rape or attempted abduction
* you can make noise with a whistle yet they ban sound-supressors ( silencers )
December 18th, 2007 03:50 PM
I think the agency feels it's their duty to take control of the bad guy and they do not want you stealing their glory..and eventually, they will get around to it.
December 18th, 2007 04:39 PM
It actually depends on many situations, and the law where you live.
In Az. we have the"Castle law in effect" . If someone breaks in we can defend ourselves and our home. If it happens in a store, they are insured and if there was no threat to my life I would not show my weapon, unless anyone's life was in imminent threat and I had a clear shoot. Then I would stop it.
Last edited by JD; December 19th, 2007 at 05:41 PM.
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December 18th, 2007 05:30 PM
They left out the most important one.
Originally Posted by Dihappy
Sit down, bend over and kiss your a$$ goodbye!
December 18th, 2007 05:35 PM
Nope! You passed! They failed!
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