Your first shot is a squib!!!
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I however have had contact over the years with Mr ...
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August 1st, 2005 09:01 PM
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Your first shot is a squib!!!
OK - law of averages - factory ammo and squib - VERY unlikely. Almost impossible.
I however have had contact over the years with Mr Murphy - and know that his plan is to screw up anything you do - to the max 
Let us assume - for discussion' sake - that your first (defensive) shot thru a semi - is a squib and you do actually realize it. You do not (again thx to Murphy) have a BUG this day.
WTH do you do??? In my book I am screwed, royally!!
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August 1st, 2005 09:03 PM
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Yep you screwed.. Course you could rack it hope it chambers and take the chance of shooting it and hope it shoots the first bullet out ... course guns gonna blow up at that point..
Or unless you are suign tactile tupperware you can turn it grab muzzle and pistol whip the bad gun ... Only choices
other than run like heck screaming like a little Girl
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August 1st, 2005 09:06 PM
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screaming like a little Girl
Hahaha - yep - only option maybe - psyche out the BG long enough to get the heck outa Dodge! LOL
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August 1st, 2005 09:17 PM
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Well if I've presented a firearm and fired it, odds are excellent that it's either him or me and there's no escape.
I go after him with my knife or my bare hands even though I may be in for some hurting, because if I don't try I have no chance at all.
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August 1st, 2005 09:23 PM
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August 1st, 2005 09:51 PM
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I'd shoot the sucker.
Ive seen too many squibs that did nothing more than bulge the barrel. Some of them werent even noticable unless you help it up against the light. Others have a noticable bulge but it seems not to affect the accuracy at all.
Of course you could trash the barrel and the gun. If I'm in the postition where I'm drawing and firing on someone, a broke gun will be the least of my worries. Im taking the chance that he's gonna get hit with 2 bullets from the same shot instead of one. What have ya got to lose ?
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August 1st, 2005 10:19 PM
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August 1st, 2005 10:27 PM
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Having had men on the business end of a firearm in the past, I believe I would only notice a failure to fire. Do the drill and fire again. I could only hope that the firing of the gun gives the BG some pause. If we have come to that point, are toe to toe and the gun doesn't continue going bang it's a rock or club anyway.
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August 1st, 2005 11:11 PM
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I, in fact had a hang fire the other day during a match, using factory Magtech ammo. Not a squib load mind you, but a failure to fire none-the-less with factory ammo. I took the offending round off to another bay after the course of fire was complete and hit it 3 more time with no effect, just a dead round of ammo.
I contacted Magtech and was told they would explore the ammo lot and get back to me, but so far I have heard nothing.
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August 2nd, 2005 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by
P95Carry
Let us assume - for discussion' sake - that your first (defensive) shot thru a semi - is a squib and you do actually realize it. You do not (again thx to Murphy) have a BUG this day.
WTH do you do??? In my book I am screwed, royally!!
You've got a Sig. They passed the military testing for handling squib loads.
Fire again.
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August 2nd, 2005 03:02 AM
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You know this thread made me think of something. I have no idea how any of my guns would react if I fired after a squib therefore I simply assumed they would not function if that happened. I have no clue if there's any kind of testing or rating for them in this regard.
Shame on me I don't know my weapons.
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August 2nd, 2005 04:29 AM
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August 2nd, 2005 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
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You've got a Sig. They passed the military testing for handling squib loads.
Fire again.
That's news (good news!) to me, could/would you elaborate on that just a bit? I.e. what caliber, what guns, how'd they test for that?
And I guess you're going to tell us not to try this test at home???
Thanks!
Last edited by Tangle; August 2nd, 2005 at 10:40 AM.
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August 2nd, 2005 10:22 AM
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I'm not sure I'd notice a squib at all in the heat of the situation, or even if I did, my finger would've pulled the trigger again by that time anyway.
I figure if it kabooms and it didn't scare the heck outta the bad guy, I'd have a nice splintery bludgeoning tool to use on him (if I have hands left to wield it with)!
I'd like to know more about the military testing with squibs, too.
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August 2nd, 2005 10:43 AM
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In reality, I'd probably miss the fact that it was a squib and only notice that I didn't get the desired result. I'd probably do a tap-rack drill and fire again, if I thought I had the time and space; otherwise, I'd probably be shifting to my next layer of defense.
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