Safe to try to use gun?
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December 19th, 2007 10:35 PM
Safe to try to use gun?
It might be a "common" situation to have a perp demand your wallet at knifepoint. I know a lot of people carry at 4:00...and I am one of them. If the perp doesn't know you are carrying, and you are in a state where it would be legal to use deadly force:
A.) Give up your wallet, return home with your life
B.) Turn right side slightly away from perp, unholster gun, but make it look like going for wallet, quickly shoot perp
Just curious what y'all think is a wise choice.
December 19th, 2007 10:35 PM
December 19th, 2007 10:53 PM
Knifepoint is potentially a totally lethal threat situation - you could well fear for your life. Who is to say the perp' will not use that knife.
The immediate reaction IMO should be - make space/distance ... fast. Essential. Then be able to reach and draw - this might in itself be enough to have him cut and run ... but if the threat persists at all then again, IMO - game on and we take measures to reduce/negate that threat.
Beyond this - ''play it as you see it'' - always a boatload of variables.
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December 19th, 2007 11:01 PM
What wallet? It is Christmas time and between the wife and kids there is nothing in my wallet!
Shoot the BG.
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December 19th, 2007 11:14 PM
A lot depends on your skill and the BG's skill and if he is willing to strike. A lot of people think they can be John Wayne, but can you really? I have my doubts that I would be able to pull it off without creating more time and distance for myself.
December 19th, 2007 11:17 PM
When I hear "Wallet!" and see a weapon...things are going to happen very quickly...I am going to apply some ventilation therapy to the BG. I would hope that being cognizant of my surroundings will aid my ability to get a head start... There are no guarantees in life!
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December 19th, 2007 11:26 PM
That is precisely why I carry a BUG and a few dollars in cash in the same pocket. I can show my wallet and prove that it isn't big enough to hold any money. Likely the turd saw me remove and put money in that pocket so my reaching in that pocket shouldn't raise too much concern for him. That is until he sees a little piece of stainless steel and then a flash of fire.
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December 19th, 2007 11:39 PM
Personally, I have a 'zone'. All intruders that come into the 'zone' are suspect. If a BG is facing me, and I see a knife, words would fall on deaf ears. If he's still facing me when all three dots are covering his eyes and mouth----so be it. The next time I reach for my wallet would be to retrieve my driver's license and permit for the officer taking the report.
December 19th, 2007 11:49 PM
Depends on the exact situation. Distance from perp, am I alone or with family, is perp alone, what's behind the perp, perp's demeanor, etc. No one size fits all answer here, but a "throwaway" wallet with a couple bucks and no ID could come in handy for this kind of situation.
Drop it on the ground and back away while preparing to draw. Keep all options (and your eyes) open.
December 20th, 2007 12:21 AM
I like the throwaway wallet idea.
December 20th, 2007 02:47 AM
Or throw it in his face while you step back/side and draw.
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December 20th, 2007 03:45 AM
How can I put this into todays vernacular.........pop a cap in him!!!!
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December 20th, 2007 04:21 AM
I do too, but dang. I mean I'm already carrying a firearm, two folders ( dont take up too much room) cell,and my super slim wallet(had to get one b/c larger one gets on my nerves). I don't see how y'all do it. My pockets are full.
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December 20th, 2007 08:06 AM
Do they make a flash-bang shaped like a wallet?
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December 20th, 2007 08:57 AM
Fake wallet works as well. Keep your real wallet in a secure location, i.e. inside a coat pocket etc... and keep your fake wallet, with a few fake credit cards (like the ones they send you in the mail as an example) and some fake cash that you could buy at the dollar store. Or even print out a few of the novelty million dollar bills from the net. Maybe even add a sarcastic note saying this was a fake wallet, your lucky you didn't get shot, get a job etc.... Give him that, then dash. No one is hurt, you still have all your real wallet and the BG is the fool.
December 20th, 2007 09:17 AM
Obviously dependent on the exact situation, but my inclination would be to shoot the SOB and try my best to rid society of him (I mean, remove the immediate threat to my life ).
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