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12 arrested in poconos drug raid
... Also arrested was Vincent Rodriguez, age unavailable, of Stroudsburg, who allegedly had a stolen gun, a bullet-proof vest and 434 bags of heroin worth $10,000. ...
So, are we ready with tactics if there is a fail to neutralize?
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its already started up in the poconos with all these ex nycers moving on over,,
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fire a burst to the high center chest...if that doesn't work, start shooting 'em in the head.Originally Posted by sojourner
"Being a predator isn't always comfortable but the only other option is to be prey. That is not an acceptable option." ~Phil Messina
If you carry in Condition 3, you have two empty chambers. One in the weapon...the other between your ears.
Matt K.
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Aim for the groin.
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+1 !
"Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008
(Sometimes) "a fight avioded is a fight won." ... claude clay
head and groin have the votes so far.
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Don't know if you've seen the episode in The Wire with the hoodlums training force-on-force with paint guns.. They also teach the 'head or groin' in that episode.
The Wire tends to take its cues and stories from real life, so I'd expect this to be partially factual as well.. I guess if that's true, then gangsters may have more useful training than the average street cop.
They may not shoot a perfect Weaver and carry in a leather holster at 4.00, but they're not stupid.
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You have to remember though that it requires a lot of mental training to shut off the "I've been shot" mechanism when a sober person is wearing body armor. I say sober, because drugs like PCP have been known to act as their own "body armor".
When a bullet strikes body armor, you still feel the impact, and it can still hurt, cause injury, and knock down the person wearing it. Thats not to say that it will stop somone wearing them, but it may give them pause. That pause can give you the opertunity to follow up with a stopping shot.
I will support gun control when you can guarantee all guns are removed from this planet. That includes military and law enforcement. When you can accomplish that, then I will be the last person to lay down my gun. Then I will carry the weapon that replaces the gun.
+1 on HBO's "The Wire!" That's some intense TV and pretty thought provoking.
Can't wait for the new season, which sadly will be the final season.
-Bark'n
Semper Fi
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
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Massad Ayoob gives several compelling reasons for focusing aim upon the groin not the least of which is the physiological effect of being shot in the genitals , it allows a full field of vision and the pelvis abdomen and femurs all produce man stopping wounds
Shot for the groin, and when he looks down at his "unit" shot for the head.
Z
An ounce of lead is worth 200lbs of cop.
Mozambique!
ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell!
"A superior Operator is best defined as someone who uses his superior
judgement to keep himself out of situations that would require a display of his
superior skills."
This shot is two-fold...stops, or slows the attack, and it also permanently cleans out the gene pool filter...
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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This is why I practice "failure" drills. They teach it at Gunsite: Two to the chest - one to the head. Just in case the badguy fails to yield to my rights.
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"It is enough to note, as we have observed, that the American people have considered the handgun to be the quintessential self-defense weapon." - Justice Scalia, SCOTUS - DC v Heller - 26 JUN 2008
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Dirt bags all over.
Les Baer 45
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