March 2nd, 2008 08:55 AM
Very good idea. Just in case they decide to come back & bother you. I would still also get your CCW permit.
Originally Posted by BerneyG
March 2nd, 2008 07:17 PM
nothing today either...oh im definately keeping the paper trail going because it might start up again...next weekend we are taking that pistol class and im going to be working less now so we will have lots of time to go to the range to practice and everything
thanks so much everyone we really appriciate all the help you have given us and if someone else has this problem hopefully they will see this thread and know what to do :)
March 2nd, 2008 09:30 PM
I've been watching this from the sidelines and now feel compelled to chime in. I am familiar with Florida's laws on wiretapping. I lived in the State for 23 of the last 27 years and was a Reserve Deputy Sheriff for 8 of those years. We covered this topic in the Academy and we covered it in our in-service training - extensively. Florida's laws are quite clear on when you can and cannot record a conversation. It has nothing to do with whether one wears a badge or not. You cannot record a telephonic conversation without all parties consent - to the extent you must state you are recording the conversation and ask a specific question to the other party seeking specific permission to record the conversation. You must state your name and time/date. The other party must clearly state their name(s) and acknowledge their constent to the recording. You also must give the other party the option of either terminating the call or requesting to speak "off line." You may wear a mic and you do not need to inform the other party that you are wearing a wire. And yes, that recording is admissable (precedent set in most all of Florida's 67 counties).
Your best option is to go about your routine and not acknowledge their presence - no looks, no words, no gestures. If confronted, respond accordingly. Once you have compiled enough clear evidence, submit it to the State's Attorney's Office - ONLY. That "need for 4 weeks of evidence" is a brush off.
You've been looking at this from a criminal perspective. Try a civil suit. The burden of proof falls on the respondent, not the plaintiff. Let them try to refute video and audio evidence. Failing everything else, do your best to move to a different part of town in a different neighborhood. Just a thought.................
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March 3rd, 2008 01:55 AM
In Florida, you're very right. It's LEGAL to tap your OWN house, except phone convos (hence the automated "this conversation may be recorded..." on BrightHouse etc.) Pugilist is not suggesting derek should tap his neighbors' house, but rather set up surveilance around his own house. Cameras, AND AUDIO - are both very legal in the state of Florida.
Originally Posted by USA Pugilist
I don't see why everyone is going crazy about this part of the thread.
--Would be my best suggestion as well, and it's not very expensive either.
p.s.s... Sniper (above) has a great suggestion as well with the civil suit.
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March 19th, 2008 09:22 PM
sorry i havent posted back in a while but they are no longer living there....they were talking bad to the latino guys mom(he lives in a couple houses down) when she was carrying in groceries and the latino kid told them he was going to kill them all when he came back out....now they live like 15 miles away lol
thanks everyone for all the help!
March 21st, 2008 05:06 AM
GREAT NEWS !! Sounds about right too. But now you know, your safety is your responsibility. Keep on track get your CCW, train and practice, than train some more. Next time the lesson may not be as gentle as this one turned out to be. Stay safe always carry never tell. Create good luck and practice
Originally Posted by derekxec
Abort the Obamanation not the Constitution
Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family
March 21st, 2008 04:48 PM
Call higher authorities. There has to be a paper trail.
Originally Posted by derekxec
I wouldn't do anything physical. You don't bring pepper spray to a gun fight. If this were me and I knew someone carried a gun and he attempted to gain entry to my vehicle with that gun on him, well...
Let's just say I'd be 100% justified where I live.
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