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This is a discussion on Tiger Attack within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; A few years ago, one of the cheetahs escaped from the Nashville Zoo. Luckily, nobody was harmed and the cheetah was tranquilized. I enjoy the ...

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    A few years ago, one of the cheetahs escaped from the Nashville Zoo. Luckily, nobody was harmed and the cheetah was tranquilized. I enjoy the zoo and go once or twice a year. So while the casino show may never apply to me, the zoo scenario would. My handguns might not be much, but if I thought I could get a good, safe shot at the big cat, I would if that cat was attacking someone and no employees were around to tranquilize it. I also think that's easier said than done - a .45, .357 or .38 Spl. isn't the best equalizer against a very large, fast-moving predator with teeth and claws.

    I did a Google search for "domesticated" big cat incidents, and ended up with a PETA (yeah, yeah, I know) PDF document with U.S. incidents from 1990 to 2005. There's quite a lot of them, most mainly being stupid humans sticking their hands in or near the cages. Others were of people attacked by their own pet big cats , park employees and circus trainers being bitten, kids and adults bitten and clawed during "photo ops" with the "tame" animals, and people attacked by escaped pets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD9
    My question. If you were on the front row of that show, would you have shot the tiger?
    I would get a newspaper, roll it up and spank the tiger while shouting "BAD KITTY, BAD KITTY."
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Not To Get Morbid Or Anything

    But, the last domestic tiger attack that I remember reading about was a high school girl that loved tigers and wanted to have her graduation/yearbook photo taken with a live tiger.
    The trainer was holding a leashed tiger that had been "on tour" before & never caused any sort of problems in the past.
    The tiger moved - the girl panicked and squealed & without going into any detail.
    She was killed.
    A "tame" tiger on a leash is only ever on a leash because it is allowing the leash.
    10 California Governors named Arnold could not hold a 900 lb. tiger on a leash that did not want to be on one.
    Predatory cats are lightning fast and unpredictable.

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    Unfortunately, predatory cats remain problematic, as their stealth and pounce leave little time to field any arm.

    Jeff Cooper recalled an acquantaince who brought his .357 to africa on the assumption it could brain any threat. Now, some time after a lion charge, he still doesn't have full use of his left side.

    One of my distributors forwarded a large video file showing a wounded lion galoping at the hunters, all the while taking hits from several 454's through the chest. Undeterred, the lion, in mid air, struck one of the hunters, knocking him to the ground. Then the lion landed, rolled, got to his feet, and ran off. In slo mo you could see the shots exiting the cat's boiler room with little or no immediate effect.

    oops...this was supposed to be a tiger thread...sorry
    We have mountain lions all over the MN woods now...what to do
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    Smile Sheep and sheepdogs....

    Quote Originally Posted by XD9
    My question. If you were on the front row of that show, would you have shot the tiger?
    Only if I was armed with a Ruger 454 Alaskan! Seriously as Tanksoldier said below (yes I used the edit feature), Sheepdogs protect the whole flock, not just their favorite sheep. Ya gotta work with whatever you got. Karamojo Bell, the famed "Great White Hunter" from the late 1800s to early 1900's used to take Elephant with a mere .243 by shooting them thru an eye. Shot placement is always critical and even more so here.
    Last edited by ExSoldier; September 16th, 2005 at 06:30 AM.
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    While it's not the absolute best option, I guess that a .357 is the most capable of the "normal" carry calibers for this situation... not that that's saying much in this case.

    I'm not one of those who believes a CCW holder should stay out of problems unless they directly affect him and his. A sheepdog protects the whole flock, not just his own favorite sheep. Perhaps it's a side effect of being a Soldier.

    In the situation described I would engage the tiger if it was a danger to others outside the show arena, after sending my wife in the opposite direction. Something to consider would be your backstop, these shows usually seat the audience in a ring around the show, in stadium seating. I would have to be careful and pick my chance, probably by getting as close as possible and going for a headshot, but if the tiger was attacking the crowd I would find the opportunity... admittedly by putting myself at greater risk and perhaps liability... but IMO that's what sheepdogs, and Soldiers, do.
    "I am a Soldier. I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

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    Cool AHNOLD? Or Russell?

    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    10 California Governors named Arnold could not hold a 900 lb. tiger on a leash that did not want to be on one.
    Predatory cats are lightning fast and unpredictable.
    Russell Crowe could kill one with a set of butcher knives. Seen him do it once.....
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    In Vegas, I would think it was part of the show!
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